Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1990

Standing still whilst playing

What does this mean?

"The orchestra was just standing still as the conductor was waiting for the backing track cue, obviously not knowing that the TV audience was already hearing the orchestra part playing."

They were standing still whilst playing? This sentence doesn't make sense to me. - Jetro (talk) 22:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: The C of E (talk · contribs) 09:25, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I shall take this on. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 09:25, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

• Where was the 1989 contest held in the Location section?
  • I don't particularly see how the location of the previous event is relevant to this article. Can you add more of your thinking on this?
• What kind of renovations were needed?
  • I've done an extensive search for this and unfortunately from the sources that are available I can't find an answer for this question.
• Per MOS:PF I do think the rehersals paragraph could do with some more citations.
  • Reading MOS:PF I'm not sure how there is a violation here, given that MOS entry is about how references are presented, which I believe is met consistently through the article. Is there another policy you are trying to refer to?
• "During the week of rehearsals problems arose regarding the choice of presenters for the event", MOS:COMMA needed
  •  Done
• Is there a reason why only the spokespeople of 3 countries are known? Didn't they announce who was on the phone/screen during the event like they do nowadays? Would it be possible if we're able to dig a little deeper and flesh that out please?
  • Because the voting was conducted only through telephone lines (there were no in-person satellite links until 1994) the hosts would generally refer to the spokespersons only by the city/country in which they were based. Finding reliable references for this as well has proved very difficult, as the majority of sources available have generally relied on Wikipedia for this information, therefore breaking WP:CIRCULAR. I have spent a great deal of energy and time trying to find reliable references to back up any claims which were present on Wikipedia and unfortunately these are the only entries that are currently available to us right now.
  • More to come. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
• Source 4, the publisher is a bare web address
  • Also what makes it a WP:RS? It looks a bit like a tourist blog.
    • Ref now replaced with two separate refs covering the different material which they are verifying. Hopefully this resolves this issue.
• Source 37, as per WP:METRO, the Metro is considered unreliable and should not be used. This will need to be replaced.
  •  Done Hopefully the new reference is suitable.
• Source 45, the archiving site is a web address
  • I'm not entirely certain what you mean here. Can you explain further what the issue is?
    • Its using a web address as the publisher rather than the full name. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
      • Can you please confirm that you are referring to the correct reference? The publisher listed on source 46 (previously 45 before the changes as explained above) is "European Broadcasting Union". Sims2aholic8 (talk) 20:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
        • @Sims2aholic8: Sorry, 47. "e-newspaperarchives.ch.". The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 09:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

          Thank you for clarifying. "e-newspaperarchives.ch" is the platform on which this source is hosted; the actual work is a newspaper listing from Neue Zürcher Zeitung, and this is listed as such within this source. Per the site's About page, it is consistently referred to only by its URL, so I'm not sure how best to change this while remaining accurate. I can potentially remove the "via" field from this source if that makes things simpler. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

          • That clarifies it for me @Sims2aholic8: so I therefore see no bars so I am happy to approve this for GA status. Well done! The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

• Source 67, needs the padlock icon to be consistent with the rest of the article.
  • I am able to access this without any issues. There doesn't appear to be any subscription or access blocks in place that would require flagging at least on my side, and I've checked that I am not logged in with an account or anything like that.

• In all, it seems very well written @Sims2aholic8:. If you're able to sort the above mentioned issues, give me a ping and i'll have another look. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:24, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  • @The C of E: Thank you for the thorough review! Comments above related to each item. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 1990, held in Yugoslavia, was the first Eurovision Song Contest to be held in the Balkans or in a socialist state? Source: "The Contest moved to Croatia’s capital of Zagreb and there was lots of excitement in the fact that it was the first time a Balkan country or a socialist state was hosting the Contest!"
  • ALT1: ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 1990 was the first edition of the contest to have an official mascot? Source: "For the first time in the history of the Contest, Helga and Oliver were also joined by a mascot named Eurocat the purple, animated cat!"
  • ALT2: ... that due to the participation of two artists aged 12 or under in the previous year's event the Eurovision Song Contest 1990 was the first edition of the contest to implement an age rule? Source: "The age rule had been established in time for the 1990 Eurovision Song Contest after the participation of a 12 year-old boy (Gili from Israel) and an 11 year-old girl (France’s Nathalie Pâque) raised the age question in the previous year. The new rules stated that 'the performers must be at least 16 years old in the year they compete.' "
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beaumont Society

Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

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General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nominated for DYK within 7 days of GA status. Length is good, sourcing is good. The nominator has only made 15 nominations and thus does not meet the requirement for 2 QPQs, so it looks good to go. The hook on the DYK is interesting but I was hoping if there were another citation for it because the current hook uses a primary source. lullabying (talk) 23:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

• @Lullabying: Thanks for the review! Additional citation can be found here: "The event was held on May 5 in the Vatroslav Lisinski Concert Hall, the first time on the Balkan Peninsula and in a, at least for a short time, socialist state." Happy to add this to the article itself if needed. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 23:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Good to go with this alt: ALT0b: * ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 1990, held in Yugoslavia, was the first Eurovision Song Contest to be held in the Balkans or in a socialist state? Source: "The event was held on May 5 in the Vatroslav Lisinski Concert Hall, the first time on the Balkan Peninsula and in a, at least for a short time, socialist state." lullabying (talk) 04:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)