Talk:Eustace Tilley

Vesta Tilley

Based on the last name and a monocled publicity photo there are fringe theorists who speculate that this character was actually derived from Vesta Tilley.

1. https://emdashes.com/2008/02/eustace-tilley-inspired-by-fam.php
2. https://monkeysox.blogspot.com/2008/02/eustace-tilley-impersonates-vesta.html

-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:31, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Jstor

I don't often cite journal articles. this popped up when researching this topic. I have not read it to consider its contents for inclusion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:28, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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Eustace Tilley on the cover of the first edition of The New Yorker in 1925

• ... that in 2017, Eustace Tilley (pictured) missed his annual turn on The New Yorker cover because of Donald Trump? Source: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/cover-story-2017-02-13
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sheryl Cooper
  • Comment: 2nd of 2 QPQs

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 05:48, 13 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Eustace Tilley; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• This page previously redirected to a section of The New Yorker#Eustace Tilley.

Substantial interesting article on plenty of sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I accept the hook, it made me curious. I'm open though to something mentioning that “Liberty’s Flameout." was presented instead. I also think the "because of DT" could be a bit clearer in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt would the hook have made you as curious without "because of DT"?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Let's not discuss my stance there, please. Perhaps it's neutral enough to say that I became interested only because of the image. - I said in the article it could be clearer what DT had to do with the unusual break of tradition, not in the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread. The hook made you curious and the article needs clarification. Will have a look.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The image is licensed and a must ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

I have amended the text that is related to the hook. I am glad you feel the way I do about the image. In all my experience on DYK, I don't recall seeing such an image endorsement. It is of superior quality and works with a hook that has high level of intrigue.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Related content

The following non-WP:RS sources have interesting relevant content:

1. https://michaelmaslin.com/monday-tilley-watch-the-new-yorker-double-issue-december-25-2023-january-1-2024/
2. https://michaelmaslin.com/rea-irvins-talk-of-the-town-town-masthead-a-mere-reassuring-blur/

-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Note the 2nd of these says that on May 22, 2017, Christoph Niemann redrew Tilley for the masthead. I can't find an WP:RS noting this.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
• Also, I can only find this WP:PRIMARY source to note that Niemann named his November 20, 2023 The New Yorker cover robot depiction of an AI bot, Till-E.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
  • According to Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Michaelmaslin.com I can use this as a source for the 2017 Tilley revamp.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)