Talk:Ewa Kłobukowska

Latest comment: 2 months ago by DesiArcy in topic XY versus XXY

XXX versus XYY

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XXX is a female syndrome. XYY is a male syndrome.
If she indeed gave birth to children than wouldn't her disorder have to be XXX since individuals exhibiting Swyer syndrome are sterile.
Although she could have had a functional uterus and donor embryos. Perhaps this article should be clarified further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.120.244.55 (talk) 02:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

XY versus XXY

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XXY cannot be the case because an XXY-person (allmost always men) have a barr boddy in their cells. An XXY-person would not have failed the gendertest at that time. Cells cannot survive with two X's. So one is set aside as a barr body. You can make a barr body visible in the cell. If you see one the conclusion would have been "woman".

Ewa must have been banned for not having a barr boddy in her cells. XY-woman would be a far better conclusion. In the sources I have read Ewa Kłobukowska never had a child, allthough she wanted to have a baby. It was impossible for her. She never got married. (Max Dohle, Holland) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.85.149.252 (talk) 20:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Seeing the concerns listed here, I have added a reliable source to the information and removed the info about a child (this has no citable proof at the moment). Given the "one chromosome too many" statement, I have postulated a possible abnormality (Triple X) as it may help the reader understand the nature of chromosomal abnormality. However, I've stated that this is inconclusive and speculation. Although wikipedia indeed frowns upon its use, I think it really does the article no harm and provides a helpful link to the reader. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 00:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
I've seen several blog articles and the like claiming that Ewa failed a Y chromosome based gender verification but would have passed the Barr body test adopted in the subsequent Olympics. This appears to be extrapolating from the statement at the time that she had "one chromosome too many", but it's important to note that this would have been based on a karyotype, not on PCR-based Y-chromosome testing as we know it today. This kind of testing 'did not exist at that time; it's what replaced Barr body testing, not the other way around.
A karyotype would have verified the existence of *some* abnormality in the gender chromosomes and provided a basis for the "one chromosome too many" statement, but would not necessarily provide enough information to clearly identify a specific intersex condition. DesiArcy (talk) 21:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Date of birth

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The article had 3 different birth dates. The main text started with 1 October 1946, the infobox said 1 August 1946, Persondata said 1946-20-1 The citation pointed me towards this page which gave 1st Oct 1946, so I used this one to make all the dates the same. I am not sure how reliable the other website is? Periglio (talk) 23:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ewa Klobukowska

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She never gave birth to a son. That’s just a wild story. How could she have with a Y chromosome she had internal testes in stead of ovaries. Het karyotype was a mosaic of 47XXY and 46 XX. Klobukowska never got married and had no son. Impossible and Polish sources nowhere mentions that she had a son. These sources tell us that she would have liked to get married but never did. Max Dohle, the Netherlands. Max dohle (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

What was her intersex condition?

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Saying she had XX/XXY isn’t enough. Did she had gonadal Dygenesis or did she had ovotesticular disorder? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CycoMa (talkcontribs) 03:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Science and the Gendered Body

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  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2022 and 9 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Awsoltys (article contribs).