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Capital
editThe statement that Caerwent was the capital of the kingdom of Ewyas seems an odd one to me, since Ewyas refers to a district that is a long way from it. Surely the correct statement is that Ewyas was part of the kingdom of Gwent, whose capital was Caerwent. If there is evidence that the whole kingdom was called Ewyas, please indicate what it is. Peterkingiron (talk) 08:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've corrected the reference to this - historyfiles: Post-Roman Celtic Kingdoms: Ewyas. I'm no expert, but the thinking (on that site at least) seems to be that Ewyas originally encompassed much of what later became Gwent, before then becoming restricted to only the inland (Black Mountains) area. But I'm happy to go with whatever the majority of sources state - as I say, I'm no expert, merely the passer-on of found information! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I note what you say. Certainly you have a web-based source. The problem is to what how much to believe of early Welsh genealogical sources. I think the answer to my objection is to provide a section heading to divide the early semi-legendary state (with a wide extent) from the later usage for a relatively small area. Accordingly my objection is a structural one, rather than a substantive one. After writing this, I will provide a suggested solution, with which you are of course entitled to disagree (and amend). Peterkingiron (talk) 14:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- No problem - I'm happy to leave it as you have it and see if anyone else comments. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Now edited out in later rewrite. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've made some drastic amendments to the early history section. Having got around, at long last, to creating an article on Ewias on Welsh Wikipedia by adapting what is found here I found myself asking once again "where does this Eudaf business come from?" For a start it is obviously completely anachronistic to have a so-called "High King of the Brythons" in the 3rd/4th centuries. And yet the name is familiar. Then it occurred to me to check Goeffrey's Historia and sure enough it is there that you will find the legend uncritically presented as history by the "History Files" site (if I were a professional historian I'd sue them for libel!). Enaidmawr (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- Now edited out in later rewrite. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- No problem - I'm happy to leave it as you have it and see if anyone else comments. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- I note what you say. Certainly you have a web-based source. The problem is to what how much to believe of early Welsh genealogical sources. I think the answer to my objection is to provide a section heading to divide the early semi-legendary state (with a wide extent) from the later usage for a relatively small area. Accordingly my objection is a structural one, rather than a substantive one. After writing this, I will provide a suggested solution, with which you are of course entitled to disagree (and amend). Peterkingiron (talk) 14:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Well Done. Geoffrey of Monmouth is hardly a WP:RS, when it comes to history, as opposed to romance and legend. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've just referenced it. Enaidmawr (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)