Talk:Ex Libris (bookplate)

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Moved from the article by Lupo 10:31, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC):

I have been collecting bookplates for more years than I care to think about and have noticed that many people who join the various Bookplate Societies do not renew their memberships.I suspect they feel somewhat frustrated at not being able to gather information and obtain new bookplates easily so I intend to act as a mentor for those of you seeking information and to pass on ,from time to time tips on how to acquire additional bookplates for your colllection.If you wish to contact me my name is Lewis Jaffe and my Email is Bookplatemaven@hotmail.com

Lets start:

Tip #1 Find your local hand bookbinder.Bookbinders are genetically programed like pacrats to save scraps of paper.I have gotten many bookplate accumulations from bookbinders.Generally I offer them about $1.00 per bookplate selected.

Tip # 2 Use Ebay religously. Ebay, has in recent years ,generated many additions to my collection.Search for bookplates in three different ways: Bookplate,Book plate, Ex Libris

Some sellers use only one of the spellings in the heading and you can miss some great buys by not doing three searches.

Tip # 3 Antiquarian and used book dealers.Most bookdealers have neither the time nor the inclination to look at bookplates.This works to your advantage sometimes, since you can find some outstanding plates by looking through the dealer's stock.To some people this is a turnoff because it is like archeaology, very time consuming.Here are some shortcuts if you like the bookseller do not have the time nor inclination to look through alot of old books.Ask the dealer if he has a box of old boards (detached covers).I have found some remarkable bookplates doing that.If you visit enough shops you develope a knack for what sections to look at first and what books are more likely to have desireable bookplates.The poetry section is usually a good place to start

Tip #4 How to remove bookplates from books without damaging the book---To be continued ...

End of moved text. Lupo 10:31, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"ex libris"

I'm confused by the last sentence of this article, saying that "A bookplate is also called ex libris". Should that be "an ex libris"? In a sentence, would I say "this book has a beautiful ex libris"? -- Creidieki 15:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

What does it mean when a bookseller says 'Not an ex libris'?

Saw this quote on an Amazon second-hand offer:

Acceptable condition with poor dust jacket; a little writing on flyleaf. NOT AN EX LIBRIS. ***OVERSIZED~ NON-US ECON ONLY!!!...

Is he trying to say that this was not previously owned by a public library? If so, is this the correct or a slang usage of the term 'ex libris?'

Thanks.

Kevinz

• Kevinz, that means that it is not a library book (public or otherwise). It's not so much "slang" usage as a way that booksellers sometimes speak of ex-library books, which are usually bound and stamped and not always in the best of shape. Since ex libris means "from the library", to say NOT AN EX LIBRIS is actually pretty accurate. Morgaledh (talk) 03:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

stupid question

Why would anybody print a bookplate? Why not just use a stamp & ink pad? But I guess today these things are always made with laser printers, which would look nicer than a stamp.

Merge

Two articles should not exist--ZayZayEM 12:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge. Neither article is long enough or unique enough to stand on its own. -- Calion | Talk 16:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello fellow Wikipedians! I am somewhat at loss as to why this article is called "Bookplate" rather than "Ex Libris", as there appears to be consensus that "Ex Libris" is the more inclusive nomenclature? --Mrbdt (talk) 01:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Mrbdt

Don't Merge

I don't believe you should merge the entries, as EX LIBRIS is in its own merit a terminology that has been used for centuries in publishing and archiving. - unsigned comment by User:Superdante

• Bookplating appears to be a form of ex libris. I have not said which way the merge should go. I am leaning towards Ex Libris being the article, as it seems to have the broader definition. This article is not big enough, and will not get big enough in a hurry, to warrant its own seperate existence.--ZayZayEM 01:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Please re-move ex libris to its origin. My understanding of this encyclopedia is to help people to understand what they do not so far. I was checking for "ex libris", as this is a very common note, and I wished to exactly know, what it was. I'm surely not interested in an academic bookplate discussion.

To unsigned comment - Ex libris still exists - my undertsanding is that Bookplates are a form of ex libris - no encyclopedic article here should be an "academic discussion".--ZayZayEM 02:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

World Book,^[1] Encyclopedia Americana, Encarta,^[2] and Encyclopedia Britannica^[3] all have entries titled "bookplate." None of them have an "ex libris" entry. World Book and Encarta claim the two terms are interchangeable.--Etr3 07:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Organization

I believe this article should be better organized. While it does a great job of telling the history of bookplates, it would help if it were broken into smaller sections. More information about materials used (both the plates and the way they were attached) would be helpful. Just more general information would be nice, especially to those whom have never seen a bookplate.

History of Exlibris

I would like to say here, that the author of this article haven't mentioned one country in central-eastern Europe, which was pretty important at the end of XVth century and in XVIth century-that is Poland. In Jagiellonian Library we have exlibris dated 1516, so this is the second one of the oldest, so far in Europe. The owner of exlibris was archbishop in Gniezno and king's councelor- Maciej Drzewicki (1467-1535). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.156.94.91 (talk) 10:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Note this Ex Libris (from 1741, London)

from a chemistry book published in 1741: A new method of chemistry : including the history, theory and practice of the art / translated from the original Latin of Dr. Boerhaave’s Elementa chemiae, as published by himself... by Peter Shaw. London : T. Longman

If thou art borrow'd by a friend
Right welcome shall he be
To read, to study, not to lend
But to return to me

Not that imparted knowledge doth
Diminish learning's store
But books, I find if often lent
Return to me no more

— Abraham Gall

(credit: the National Library of Israel facebook page) Filii Henoch (talk) 21:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Name Change from Bookplate to Ex Libris

Hello fellow Wikipedians! I am somewhat at loss as to why this article is called "Bookplate" rather than "Ex Libris", as there appears to be consensus that "Ex Libris" is the more inclusive nomenclature? I do not have a citation to back this up at the moment, but anecdotaal evidence tells me that this viewpoint -one which is expressed by many others in this page- is closer to the truth; which led me to consider the possibility of Bookplate being an Americanism(though could not find proof of this as of today). Furthermore, the term'Ex Libris' is also better understood internationally, due to it's latin origin. Since the discussions in this talk page are almost two decades old, I will assume that it will be difficult to generate sufficient debate in this matter; and I am therefore temporarily changing the name of this article to 'Ex Libris' for the time being. Should any other future Wikipedian feel that this is an incorrect judgement, I would be delighted to further discuss it and reach a more healthy consensus. Cheers! --Mrbdt (talk) 01:38, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Full view Google Books for "English Book-plates Ancient and Modern" By Egerton Castle · 1893

Can the existing reference in the article be updated to include the link? Also, can the Further Reading section be updated to include this book? 107.197.56.204 (talk) 14:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

References

Spelling of lemma and spelling of "ex-libris" in first sentence needs to be corrected

Lemma: Current spelling: Ex libris Correct spelling: Ex-libris

First sentence: Current spelling: (from ex-librīs, Latin for 'from the books (or library)') Correct spelling: (from ex librīs, Latin for 'from the books (or library)')

The latin phrase "ex libris" does not have an hyphen. In English, "ex-libris" is a noun and "ex libris" is an adjective.

See Collins dictionary: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/ex-libris

'Latin for 'from the books (or library)' is, strictly speaking, not correct, too. Library would be "bibliothēca" or, if it is small, "bibliothēcula". Correct: (from ex librīs, Latin for 'from the books (of)')

Elsewhere in the text, the correct spelling is used: The name of the owner usually follows an inscription such as "from the books of..." or "from the library of...", or in Latin, "ex libris". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8071:B85:6400:F90C:36FF:8FAB:92A1 (talk) 18:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Stamps

Nowadays a lot of people use rubber stamps to print their name and an image in books they own, much like a the traditional book plate. Perhaps this should be included.Bill (talk) 04:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)