Talk:Examination

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It has been suggested that this article be merged with the article test. If no one objects, I would like to initiate the merger soon (within a week or two). mezzaninelounge (talk) 20:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Why is this a redirect and not a dab?

An editor restored the redirect without an explication in the edit summary. JMP EAX (talk) 08:13, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I know fixing the numerous ambiguous links is a lot of work, but just look at 1st article that links to this: "Avicenna then adds two further methods for arriving at the first principles: the ancient Aristotelian method of induction (istiqra), and the method of examination and experimentation (tajriba)." Do yo really think that tajriba (the method of examination and experimentation) is test (assessment)? Try searching "examination" in google books too: Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL. JMP EAX (talk) 21:35, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

@JMP EAX: to get another editor's attention use the ping template or [User: ]. I think this needs a move discussion, plus your insertion of dab page made a massive increase in undabbed links. Are you prepared to go through all those links? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:27, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't have to do it myself, because I didn't introduce the bad links. It seems your solution to that is to hide your head in the sand and pretend the problem doesn't exist. At least some of the links to "examination" are obviously not intended to go to "test (assessment)". You haven't replied at all to the substance of the matter, including the example above, but you have edit warred. And your "ping" didn't actually do anything to notify me. I just came here to see if you answered. It seems that undoing you worked well enough as ping. A "move discussion" is completely silly because there's nothing to move. JMP EAX (talk) 09:34, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

@JMP EAX: so who do you think should fix the links? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:41, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

That's akin to asking who should rewrite all the crappy content in Wikipedia. (Like rasterization for example. The guy who dumped his unsourced drivel in 2005 and didn't contribute anything since then?) Problems are solved incrementally, if ever, on Wikipedia. If you think the person [me] who flagged/identified some problem needs to solve it all by himself, you're fundamentally misunderstanding how Wikipedia is supposed to work, even though I see you've been editing for a long time. JMP EAX (talk) 09:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Confusing disambiguation page

This page is not like a typical disambiguation page because it does not clearly identify articles that might be the targets of a search for "examination". If I search for Washington, for example, the disambiguation page lists a number of articles about people, places, and things specifically known as "Washington," and I can easily identify the one for the topic I was searching for. Likewise, if I search for Mercury, the disambiguation page makes it easy to identify the one specific topic that I had in mind. But this page is not like that; it seems to be just a grouping of vaguely defined related concepts. I only see two items that are specific topics commonly referred to as "examination(s)" -- medical examination and test (assessment). Cross-examination and direct examination seem like partial title matches to me, but at least they arguably could belong on the disambiguation page. Everything else strikes me as just a synonym or related term. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:48, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Maybe this could be turned into a WP:CONCEPTDAB, but I'm not sure... What annoyed me was that pages like Death and so forth (which you have now fixed [1]) linked to test (assessment) via this page, when the context and meaning of "examination" therein was obviously different. I think term you are looking for is not synonyms but maybe homonyms or polysemy. JMP EAX (talk) 18:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I should also add that "test (assessment)" is a silly title that doesn't really disambiguate because a medical examination is also a test and an assessment. Since that page is really about academic an similar exams, an actually disambiguating title would be "knowledge and/or skill test" although I don't know how to phrase it more succinctly right now. JMP EAX (talk) 18:37, 12 August 2014 (UTC)