Talk:Experimental evolution

Artificial speciation

This page could do with a summary of artificial speciation. I know this has been done routinely with fruit flies. However, I believe the first successful experiments were conducted on Aphids by Shaposhnikov sometime in the 1960s. I've only read about this in an article on the tempo of evolution and where Shaposhnikov stood on the Lysenko issue (both for and against both schools apparently). Publication was apparently delayed by a couple of years due to fear of political ramification. If someone who is better at reading Russian than I am can track down the actual date of the experiments (and whether they influenced later attempts at artificial speciation in the west), it would be appreciated. --Hrimpurstala (talk) 13:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Bacteriophage experimental evolution should probably be subsumed into this article. It contains a remarkably thorough (if incorrectly formatted) list of references and could make up a section of this article. T. Shafee (Evo&Evo) (talk) 15:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Reading through the two articles, I would suggest that rather than merging, a section on phage evolution be added to this article, with a link to Bacteriophage experimental evolution. If the E. coli long-term evolution experiment merits its own page, bacteriophage experimental evolution probably does too. Sinusoidal (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Reverted forgery accusation

I undid this edit earlier today because I can't find any supporting evidence of the claim. I wanted to make clear that it can be re-inserted if supporting evidence can be found. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 11:29, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Good call. SageRad (talk) 13:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Redirect from "adaptive laboratory evolution"

I would like to set this page up to disambiguate or redirect from "adaptive laboratory evolution" as that is a common term that's used for work like Lenski's. I'm not sure how to do this but i'll learn. SageRad (talk) 12:58, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I can show you how to do that SageRad. Just go to the page adaptive laboratory evolution (currently doesn't exist, so create source) and add this text: #REDIRECT [[Experimental evolution]]. That will cause it to redirect to Experimental evolution. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 00:02, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, thank you for teaching me how to do it! Done! SageRad (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Change of opening paragraph

As part of a graduate course in Advanced Molecular Biology at FSU I am editing this page. The opening paragraph does not distinguish between adaptation via mutation and adaptation via allele frequency change in standing genetic variation. The fox and guppy examples are referring to studies that had quick response to selection through standing genetic variation, but this paragraph gives the impression the adaptation was via mutation. Additionally, I think it should be pointed out that modern molecular techniques can point out the molecular architecture of adaptation from mutation and standing genetic variation. Finally I think this paragraph also needs an explanation of how experimental evolution is different from artificial selection. Ltj09 (talk) 18:30, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Very good point. I look forward to seeing your improvements to the page. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 00:54, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Okay I'm attempting the switch now. I think this first paragraph is much improved and this could perhaps be broken into further subsections. I did not add a artificial select vs. experimental evolution explanation yet. That could be a section in itself, and the distinction appears to be a matter of opinion but something that I will eventually add to the page. Let me know what you think and if I should change anything. Ltj09 (talk) 16:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Article

This article is unfortunately in an abysmal state—to say the least. The lead is huge, detailed, and completely unrelated to the article content. There is no structure, and a hodgepodge of studies that hardly explain what experimental evolution is; more-so explaining examples of experimental evolution. The book Experimental Evolution: Concepts, Methods, and Applications of Selection Experiments by Theodore Garland, Jr. and Michael R. Rose (2009) is probably the best and most comprehensive discussion of the topic. If anyone is willing to re-write the article and commit to the time needed, I would be willing to loan the book to you. I would love to write the article myself but I simply do not have the time. I feel like this article is a vital one, but has been tossed in the dust bin of Wikipedia's specialist science articles. I started an outline of the article here. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 02:16, 25 July 2018 (UTC)