Talk:Extremadura

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This article should be at Extremadura as there appears to be no need to disambiguate. It needs an admin to delete the redirect at that location. Trilobite (Talk) 23:16, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Effected. - Montréalais 03:24, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hey people can we talk like this If anyone can give me info on Extremadura other than that of this article it would be much appreciated

demonym

Is it Extremaduran or Extremenian or Extremadurian or ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gaudio (talk • contribs) 11:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Foreigners?

This does not seem like the correct title for this section in an encyclopedia. Imigration and ethnicity, or something of that ilk might be better.

Demonym

Hi! The extremaduran demonym is estremeñu/a. Can you add it?

See the Extremadura's article in the Güiquipeya, in "Hentilíciu". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.35.243.187 (talk) 23:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Albuquerque

Is that a transcription error or a Portuguese variant of AlbuRquerque (which is the Spanish spelling). Many words in Portuguese and Spanish swap r's with other letters or delete them completely. The "r" may have been lost due to dissimilation with the other r in the stressed syllable (-quer-). I do not know, but the loss of the r as a "transcription error" sounds like 'folk etymology' to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.91.153.117 (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Music of Extremadura

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History

Please add more description to Extremadura's autonomous status and relationship to the nation. I was curious as to why this is an autonomous region, thinking that this meant it was less centrally controlled than other regions of Spain. This doesn't appear to be so; apparently nearly all Spanish regions are autonomous, but it'd be historically interesting and more helpful to see a brief description of how Extremadura relates to the rest of Spain -- not unusual yet autonomous, and in what ways. Aphzidos (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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Conquistadores

Is the province well known as the birthplace of Cortes and Pizarro and if so, should these things be mentioned in the introduction? It hasn't the least bit of relevance. K-Billy (talk) 11:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - I thought it sounded odd too before i looked at this Talk page. That bit of the lead was added by an IP editor last November. I've just removed it. Qwfp (talk) 13:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

'Many legendary...'

An article of this nature should strive to keep a tone of objectivity and neutrality. Some may well agree with the legendary adjective but there would many others who would not, it is not a unanimous view for obvious reasons. Otherwise there’s nothing stopping a member of the Nazi regime, the Soviet Union, etc.. being described in this manner as well, for that reason it’s best to avoid subjective terminology.

In any case the battles these individuals participated in are not comparable to conventional wars fought in other parts of the world. For example the armies that defeated the Aztecs and other indigenous empires were comprised mostly of other local indigenous enemies, not Europeans. The lack of immunity to Old World diseases wiped out a large portion of the native population, rather than warfare.

So using ‘legendary’ to describe those involved in these conflicts is somewhat dubious when in many instances diseases ran ahead of European incursions, decimating the native population before a European had set foot in the area. Which is in stark contrast to battles fought in Asia and Europe where both opposing sides were not having to contend with ill soldiers or losing a portion of them as a result of pandemics and having to fight in battles at the same time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.117.190 (talk) 04:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Etymology

Does the name mean 'beyond the Duero' or some such? —Tamfang (talk) 03:32, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Does anybody know the origin of the term? From French cognates, I would guess it means "extremely hard", but I don't know the true Spanish etymology of the word. Reify-tech (talk) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

More like '(the) hard limit', if anything. —Tamfang (talk) 05:18, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Answer:

-- the word "Extremadura" or "Estremadura" comes from the ancient Galician or Galician-leonese languages. Remember that Galician was the Spanish language until the 13th/14th centuries. The literal meaning is "border of the Douro", being Douro the Duero river in Galician or Leonese. "Extrema" meant "border". With time Extrema-douro became Extrema-dura. The region we usually call Extremadura is that coming from the kingdom of Leon: the Leonese Extremadura. The Portuguese Extremadura comes, in the same way, from the kingdom of Portugal; and the southern lands in the kingdom of Castile are also often called Castilian Extremadura.--88.2.241.72 (talk) 15:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, this explanation seems to be much more likely. If you can find a WP:RS, we should add it to the article. Reify-tech (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

the word "extrema" can also come from Latin (extremus, extrema,extremum). the meaning is "the last one, the end".-81.44.231.242 (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

--There is a section on this: es:Extremadura#Topónimo. As you see, it's in Spanish, on Spanish Wikipedia. It seems to quote a source. Trafford09 (talk) 10:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Estremadura

I had never heard this variant of 'Extremadura' before in English, however reading some books about Spain it looks rather common. I read two books yesterday (The New Spaniards and An Oxford History of Spain) and both of them used 'Estremadura' instead of 'Extremadura'. Should this be noted in the article? If nobody has any objections I'd like to add it. --Cymru123 (talk) 13:34, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Estremadura was a Portuguese region where Lisbon is located. Nothing related with the Spanish Extremadura. Lufve (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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Geography

The following appears under Geography:

"Extremadura is contained between 37° 57′ and 40° 85′ N latitude, and 4° 39′ and 7° 33′ W longitude."

The 85 minutes in the N. latitude is not a valid entry for minutes. "Minutes" run from 0 to 59. Adding 1 to 59 minutes increases the degrees by one and resets the minutes counter to 0. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.89.8.16 (talk) 14:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I assume this was just a typo. According to the Spanish Wikipedia [[1]] and maps I've looked at, the extreme northern point is around 40°29′N. The link gives an exact location of 40°29′12″N 6°13′53″W. Mahousu (talk) 01:38, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Guadalupe??

September 8 is Catholic feast day of Nativity of Mary. Unless there are objections, I'll change it in the article. This day has nothing to do with Our Lady of Guadalupe. Johnnyjanko (talk) 14:01, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

The article is actually correct. There are (at least) three feasts of Our Lady of Guadalupe - one (most well-known in the Americas) on December 12 associated with Mexico; one on May 24 associated with Loboc in the Philippines; and the one here, presumably the original one, associated with the province of Cáceres in Extremadura. The link in the article points to a law of 1985 which, in Article 13, establishes September 8 as the Day of Extremadura, as it is "[la] festividad de la Virgen de Guadalupe [de Extremadura]." Mahousu (talk) 16:44, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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