Talk:Eylon Levy

LLM tag

Hi, I added the tag after seeing a comment by Keizers, which I linked in a message I left on their talkpage here Soyembika (talk) 08:54, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Keizers Hi, I am pinging you about the content you are continuing to add to this article, like the eyebrow incident, the blog post you have summarized again (which now has a broken link), the redirect you made at Eyebrow Incident, and why you are reverting content that was removed by a different editor, without engaging at the talk page at all?

The content you added back still have many of the WP:OR issues from earlier, and you have editorialized the photo you uploaded for the section. also please see Wikipedia:Large language models#Usage if you are still using a LLM to assist you. Soyembika (talk) 15:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Soyembika, thank you for your message. Your points one by one:

• I left the "undid revision" in the edit summary, but in fact, just started by undo-ing so that I could edit by hand the text that was lost. Apologies that that confused you and left you thinking I "simply reverted".
• I have put back and completely rewritten and reduced the size of content from the criticism of the performance of Levy, and consolidated it with another source as well.
• This is NOT now original research. There are two sources which describe reported behaviour. Now, it contains observations only, not "reporting the report" but simply describing, drawing on two quite different sources.
• I changed the Eyebrow Incident (as if that were its name) to "an eyebrow incident", as the press has also referred to it, lowercase, and that was very clear in the edit summary
• If the edit summary is clear enough, there is not a reason to go to the talk page. If the other editor wishes to engage there, I will engage there. This content is not truly contentious.
• I will report LLM where I use it, the content that I put in in my own recent edit was fully re-written myself with considerable effort.
• Describing the photo as an eyebrow incident is not editorializing, the photo is ONLY there to illustrate what happened that was newsworthy, which WAS the raising of his eyebrows, per se. I'm not trying to make a funny comment, or judge him for his eyebrow stance. I'm illustrating what WAS the news, which incidentally went viral and changed the entire role of Levy in popular culture to some sort of celebrity, and for more than 15 minutes of fame. It turned him into the an icon of the war recognizable by many around the world.Keizers (talk) 17:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

@Keizers I appreciate you responding, I know I gave you a lot to read and I do appreciate you taking the time.

I do not agree with you regarding the notability of his eyebrows, at all. Or that the eyebrow incident changed his public perception so much that is turned him into an 'icon of war recognized by many around the world.' I have seen no RS showing this- a description and name you give an image does not make it a primary source, and the use of a tweet by Levy further shows the quality of source you're pulling from for this.

this is still broken Soyembika (talk) 18:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Soyembika thanks for your reply. Let me be more explicit - here are a number of quotes

• Levy – or at least his eyebrow raise – has become a household name in Israel
• Israeli Government Spokesman Eylon Levy, who became a viral sensation after raising his eyebrows in shock at a question from a Sky News reporter
• Levy raised his eyebrows in utter shock and told Burley that that was "an astonishing accusation." The video has since garnered over 16 million views since Levy shared it on social media.
• Since the eyebrow incident, many of his moves have gone viral;So sometimes it’s uncomfortable for me – they’re making fun of my eyebrows, and soldiers are dying; Levy’s raised eyebrows have even been turned into a trance music video.'
• Indeed, Kay Burley’s line of questioning with Eylon Levy isn’t the first time her interview style has raised eyebrows
• Levy’s eyebrow raise has since become an online meme.
• It has raised eyebrows all round

The quoted tweet where Eylon jokes about his eyebrows being tired is just funny to include, but not important and I don't think I can find a RS for that. It is not linked to the major premise of the paragraph which is that the eyebrow incident made him go viral. I find this kind of slightly unencyclopedic trivia in limited amounts enjoyable and it certainly is plentiful across Wikipedia, but if you are a stickler, you or I can remove it.Keizers (talk) 19:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

References

Opening sentence

He should be identified as British-Israeli since he holds both citizenships. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Suspension

Haaretz reports that he has been suspended:

"Israel Government Spokesman Eylon Levy Suspended After Comments About Gaza Aid

Levy's suspension follows a tweet, in response to British Foreign Secretary David Cameron, that 'there are NO limits on the entry of food, water, medicine, or shelter equipment into Gaza, and in fact the crossings have EXCESS capacity'"

References

Minor correction

> Eylon Aslan-Levy, going by Eylon Levy, is a British-Israeli figure, who currently serves as official Israeli government spokesman, and has been serving in that capacity since the start of 2023 Israel–Hamas war.

Levy is a former spokesman, not a current one. Also, it probably should be:

> since the start of the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. SkyfallWasTaken (talk) 21:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 March 2024

Change paragraph 2 from "who currently serves as official Israeli government spokesman, and has been serving in that capacity since the start of 2023 Israel–Hamas war.[2][3]" to "Served as official israeli government spokesman during the 2023 israel offensive in gaza until 20/03/24, when he was suspended following complaints of false claims by UK governement ministers and MPs."

Cite:https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-spokesperson-eylon-levy-suspended-after-reports-of-row-with-foreign-office-13098754 cite:https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-03-20/ty-article/.premium/israel-government-spokesman-eylon-levy-suspended-after-comments-about-gaza-aid/0000018e-5b83-d9a8-a5ae-ffcff3ef0000 81.101.74.154 (talk) 22:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done but with different wording. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 14:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Mental Health

Continuing to fill these pages with bickering and snippets of what or what not Levy may have said is not helpful to what appears to be an individuals with a declining mental health situation and a lose grasp on reality.

Can moderators restrict coment to protect or defend his dignity a little.

What is Paranoia - Mind HuttonIT (talk) 10:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Whats up here?

This article is a bit all over the place. Going to try to straighten it out. MaskedSinger (talk) 21:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 September 2024

I would like to propose a correction to the following line in the article:

Current text: "The project raised more than $300,00 in less than a week."

Proposed change: "The project raised more than $300,000 in less than a week."

This correction aligns with the original source: Eichner, Itamar (2024-04-04). "Israeli advocacy star Eylon Levy launches private public diplomacy project." Ynet. Retrieved 2024-09-04. Thank you! Roryyarr (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Done. Rainsage (talk) 18:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)