Talk:F-sharp minor

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Unprintables

01-June-2007: Some of the most unprintable characters are the unicodes for sharps/flats: they have been reverted to '#'/'b' several times over the past year in other music-key articles. For more precise sharp/flat symbols, the superscripted pound/bee characters could be used (see below: Symbols for sharps/flats). However, there is no need to persecute '#'/'b' since they work well for all 12 notes, even "Eb"/"Ab", and more importantly, they create chords/notes that are searchable by search-engines. Guitar players have complete sets of chord notations that are easy to write, read, and are SEARCHABLE by search-engines: for example, look at these brilliant notations for D-sharp diminished, minor/major, 7th chords: D#dim D#sus D#sus4 D#m D#m7 D#maj D#maj7. There is little need for the obsession over unicode sharp/flat symbols. Although music-miming computer languages have become trendy (such as C# coding, F# coding and Db), the notes/chords are still searchable within music articles (hunting G#, Bb, C#, Eb, etc.). Try to avoid those get-a-life unicode characters for sharps/flats; they just aren't needed in the modern age. -Wikid77 10:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where to make this comment so I'll leave it below yours, Wikid77: most key signature-related articles such as this one seem to only show classical music examples, when there are examples in other genres as well. For instance, the dance-pop version by Cascada of the Rascal Flatts' song "What hurts the most" is in F# minor, as well as High School Musical 2's "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" which then modulates to G minor --Fandelasketchup (talk) 14:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Symbols for sharps/flats

01-June-2007: Over the past 2 years, the unprintable sharp/flat unicodes have been reverted in articles to use simple # / b; however, superscripted codes seem more accurate and universal. For more precise coding, that shows on most PC screens, use superscripts:

• For flats (b), use "<sup>b</sup>"
• For sharp (#), use "<sup>#</sup>"
• Double-sharp, use "<sup>##</sup>"
• Double-flats, use "<sup>bb</sup>"

Results: F^#, C^#, B^b, E^b, C^##, G^bb. In general, the simple "# / b" characters are close enough, such as F# or Bb, especially considering the tedious coding of superscript expressions. However, because Wiki articles feed other sources, worldwide, avoid unicodes for sharp/flat or use words (such as: F-sharp, A-flat or C-natural). The more precise superscripted forms support music elitists as well as the vast general public on an amazing variety of PCs or Wifi Internet devices. -Wikid77 10:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The X looks like a better symbol for "double sharp." Cbsteffen

With the {{music}} template, the unprintability of Unicode characters seems solved:

• Flats: ♭
• Sharps: ♯
• Naturals: ♮
• Double-flats:
• Double-sharps: ²³¹₉₁Pa (chat me!) 08:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Even triple accidentals work now:

• Triple-flats:
• Triple-sharps: Double sharp (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Do Not Erase Acceptable Examples

I don't want any of you taking too many songs off these lists. Leave the ones that belong there. Cbsteffen

I don't think that it's necessary to mention Bach's 2 preludes and fugues in F-sharp minor in the list of piano compositions, because the same could be said for every key. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.244.24 (talk) 07:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

"common in death metal"

Aside from the sketchiness of suggesting that death metal frequently is in A major, the article contains neither example nor citation. 157.178.2.1 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

"How to Disappear Completely" by Radiohead

Is in F# minor. Also, keys don't have characteristics in equal temperament. Only modes do. Just a couple suggestions. CPGACoast (talk) 04:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

More Classical Pieces in F-sharp minor

Added:

George Frederick Bristow - Symphony in F-sharp minor Op. 26

Frederic Chopin - Nocturne Op. 48 No. 2

Alexander Glazunov - Symphony No. 2

Robert Schumann - Piano Sonata No. 1 Op. 11

Lack of symphonies in F# minor

Is there a musical / theory-based reasoning for this, or is it completely arbitrary? Churkirby (talk) 00:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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Classical Music: Mahler Adagio

The tenth and final symphony of Gustav Mahler is in F# major (though it sometimes borders on atonality). The first movement, an Adagio, does open in that key, but it soon gravitates towards minor, and most of it is probably in F# minor. 192.121.232.253 (talk) 13:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

"G-flat minor" listed at Redirects for discussion

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