Talk:FAB-5000

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There is much evidence that the bomb pictured was not the one originally used during WW-II, but was in fact a post war bomb. (See the references sited below the article.) Most of the sources show a completely different bomb and give different dimensions and filling loads. I propose that both the picture and details be up dated. For instance, there is little or no evidence that the Russians/USSR were using RDX as a military explosive during the war, since it was then five to ten times as expensive in both cost and the raw materials used to manufacture it. Such use coming after the war when they discovered it's effectiveness, their other allies use and had time and money to build new plants to manufacture it semi-economically. The cost, post war, of TNT and RDX being at a one to four, or five ratio. In my personal experience; TNT @ 98 Cents a pound and RDX @ $3.98 per pound. Cost numbers good in American service, but not sure of the unit of weight measure, might be kilograms, as I now have AO on the brain and my memory is failing. But should be easy enough to check. Sincerely, Stewart Davies; 13 years active duty, 7 more as an independent contractor and civilian consultant to the DoD, State Dept. and various foreign governments. Degree from Regents College, U-NY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neoconshooter (talk • contribs) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Not a GP?

A bomb is either a thin cased demolition bomb OR a General Purpose bomb. A GP exists for the sole purpose of being a compromise between a demolition bomb and a fragmentation bomb, having a MEDIUM case thickness to provide some material for fragmentation, while retaining a large explosive capacity for adequate blast production. Based on the description of it as "thin-walled" I removed "general purpose" from the opening sentence, since "general-purpose demolition bomb" is an oxymoron.AnnaGoFast (talk) 07:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Helsinki bombing

The article asserts that FAB-5000 bombs destroyed the Helsinki railway station and tram depot in 1944. During the three-day bombing campaign against Helsinki on three nights in February, 1944, the central railway station received several hits from Soviet bombs, with the result that the buildings of the Railway Administration and the Railway Museum caught fire but the actual main public wing of the station received little damage. Estimates stated that two of the bombs may have been 1000 kg bombs, but there was no evidence of a 5000 kg bomb. There is no record of a tram depot being hit. During the first attack on the night of April 6th-7th, casualties were slightly over 100 dead and 300 wounded; 160 buildings were destroyed or suffered damage, the destroyed buildings included the (unoccupied) Soviet embassy. The second attack on the night of April 16th-17th killed 25 and wounded 29 people, 27 buildings were destroyed and 53 damaged. Most of the bombs missed their targets; only about a hundred out of some 4300 bombs fell on the city itself. During the third attack on the night of April 26th-27th, almost 900 airplanes dropped more than 5000 bombs out of which only 290 hit the city, killing 21 people and wounding 35. 59 buildings were destroyed and 135 damaged, including the main building of Helsinki University. The attackers lost 15 planes shot down by AA and night fighters during the latter two attacks.--Death Bredon (talk) 21:29, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi. First of all, the cited source(s) came from Soviet reports, thus there may be factual errors. Soviet sources are, however, reliable in this context per WP:PARTISAN. I acknowledge that there was a misrepresentation from my part of what the former cited source says (now a dead link); this new one makes clear that the targets were railway workshops and a cable factory. The Spaniard source (note 3), agrees on the railway facilities, but reports that the second bomb destroyed instead a "naval factory". Feel free to add the Finnish version of the bombing with the proper attribution. Regards.--Darius (talk) 23:27, 21 February 2019 (UTC)