Talk:FIFA World Cup top goalscorers
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Merge
editI suggest this article should be merged with List of FIFA World Cup goalscorers. It is not appropriate to keep two articles on essentially the same topic and not feasible to keep them both updated. If necessary I will take this to AfD to get more opinions. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:06, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Good luck cleaning up that article and keeping it to a decent MoS standard, including referencing the +1k entires. Nergaal (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Timeline of top goalscorers
editAs the first two games of the 1930 World Cup (France-Mexico and USA-Belgium) actually took place simultaneously, I've edited the table to include the three scorers from the USA-Belgium match. However, showing the timeline on a goal-by-goal basis like this results in 8 separate "record-holders" for just the first day of the first World Cup, and 18 changes of record during the first tournament alone.
I feel this overwhelms the table, and makes it less relevant. For example, Müller breaking Fontaine's record in 1974 is surely much more noteworthy than Langillier "equalling" Laurent's record in 1930 (by scoring the second-ever World Cup goal). As it stands, almost half the table is taken up by the 1930 edition.
Before this article was split off from the main "List of World Cup goalscorers" article, I edited the timeline to show the progression of the record on a match-by-match basis: where a player equals or breaks a record at the end of a match (including their own record), they were given a new line.
This change was eventually reverted on the main article, so I haven't repeated it here for now, but that way of presenting things would seem to be clearer and make more sense to me - thoughts? Mojo87 (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- I missed the two matches being played at the same time. As for the entries, the same can be said about List_of_multiple_Olympic_gold_medalists. Don't you think that the lead does a decent job at balancing out that? Or at emphasizing the main landmarks? Nergaal (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, good point about the lead paragraph - plus, I guess laying it out any other way would ultimately be subjective. And I was looking for an example of a progressive list elsewhere on Wikipedia to compare it to, but couldn't find one, so thanks for that! Mojo87 (talk) 13:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- I modeled it after those at List_of_multiple_Olympic_medalists and List_of_multiple_Olympic_gold_medalists. Nergaal (talk) 21:40, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Ranking of the best most goalscorers in a one world cup
editWhat do you think about include new section about football player's efficency for one world cup, but as ranking? It look as that: 1 Fontaine (1958) 2 Kocsis (1954) 3 Muller (1974) and 4 Eusebio (1966)... Dawid2009 (talk) 15:49, 21 April 2016 (UTC) Oops, now I see that in FIFA World Cup top goalscorers#Top goalscorer by tournament there is section goal scorers. Dawid2009 (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Guillermo Stabile
editThe photo of Guillermo Stabile should be removed. That's not Stabile, that's a contemporary argentine musician (Sergio Pángaro) disguised as him, posing for a photo session of Rolling Stone for the 2006 FIFA World Cup. Wikipedia acknowledges this: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Stabile_arg.jpg. There are plenty of images of Guillermo Stabile available to replace it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladalaika (talk • contribs) 13:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
more informations
editWhat do you think about add: #Goal scored by penalty/no penalty, minutes played by each football player. It seems to me it could be add. Dawid2009 (talk) 10:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- By minute is likely a bad idea, if for no other season than early statistics for that are not easily available IMO. But having a separate section here for penalty-scorers would be nice (say list people with 2+ or 3+ penalties). Any idea on referencing it? Nergaal (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Nergaal, I suggest add tabele with most penalties and with most penalties in one tournament. Do you have realibe sources? It seems to me we should also regarted the teenagers goalscorers. We should create ranking for youngest goalscorers on WC such like: Pele, Mbappe etc. Dawid2009 (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- In List of FIFA World Cup records#Goalscoring there are informations about various records. It seems to me we should redirect them here. Dawid2009 (talk) 11:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Nergaal, I suggest add tabele with most penalties and with most penalties in one tournament. Do you have realibe sources? It seems to me we should also regarted the teenagers goalscorers. We should create ranking for youngest goalscorers on WC such like: Pele, Mbappe etc. Dawid2009 (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- By minute is likely a bad idea, if for no other season than early statistics for that are not easily available IMO. But having a separate section here for penalty-scorers would be nice (say list people with 2+ or 3+ penalties). Any idea on referencing it? Nergaal (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Harry Kane
editHe has 6 goals, not 7. "Goals" from penalty shootouts don't count. Half of his "goals" are soft, gifted penalties anyway, should count as a 1/4 of a real goal of real players like Lato or Szarmach. RadTward (talk) 21:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Add an Argentina player
editWith 137 goals, Argentina ranks 3rd in top goalscoring nations in World Cup history, only behind BRA and GER, with 2 top tournament scorers. Someone please add a picture of an Argentine striker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.85.240.3 (talk) 16:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
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Updating regarding Ongoing Event
editOverall top goalscorers section is updated regarding Ongoing Event, So is it better to updated the whole page regarding ongoing event? Sherifkk (talk) 04:45, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Players scoring at 3+ tournaments
editThe table is forgetting many players who scored fewer than 5 goals in total. Another concern is if that really makes you a "top" goalscorer, and hence if it is within the scope of the article. Pinging creator NoWikiNoLife. --Theurgist (talk) 23:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
You have Tomas Muller as top
editYou have photo of Tomas Muller as the top scorer in world cups. It should be a picture of Miroslav Klose. You have it correct in the data table just not the photo list. Just FYI 98.178.136.215 (talk) 14:17, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Giroud
editWhere is Giroud?? 103.242.26.236 (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)