Talk:Fabio Ponzio

COI

In this edit of 30 May 2020, Monkeydesigner removed a conflict of interest tag that had been attached in this edit of 3 April 2020 by AngusWOOF. Monkeydesigner did this with no comment, let alone explanation.

When AngusWOOF attached the tag to it, the draft had been edited by CharlottePonzio alone. CharlottePonzio had never edited any other draft or article. She has since returned to this article and edited it further. She still has never edited any other article (or any talk page, etc).

On 3 April 2020, AngusWOOF attached a COI notice to User talk:CharlottePonzio. CharlottePonzio has not yet responded to it in any way.

When Monkeydesigner removed the COI tag, they had never edited any other draft or article, and they still have not done so.

In view of all this, I am about to reattach the COI tag, with its correct date of April 2020. I invite anyone who disagrees to comment here. And I also invite Monkeydesigner and CharlottePonzio to read the "Plain and simple conflict of interest guide". -- Hoary (talk) 23:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hoary, agreed, thanks. This is apparent COI by family member that can only be disclaimed by the editor. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:58, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, and this seems a pity. Back in April, QueerEcofeminist wrote that the draft "reads like an advertisement"; either it has improved since then or I made an error of judgement and it hasn't. When the article can be shown to be free of COI, then the COI tag can be removed. But not before. -- Hoary (talk) 00:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Hoary, AngusWOOF, In addition to COI, these are two accounts in COI with same page. So, I think we should go for sockpuppet investigation, I have started SPI here. thanks QueerEcofeminist ^{"cite! even if you fight"!!!} [they/them/their] 05:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello there, the page has actually changed a lot, since QueerEcofeminist wrote that it read like an advertisement, for example initially there was a link to the publishers (Thames&Hudson) website and even the Amazon page, and now further descriptive information on Herta Muller (that she is a Nobel Prize winner) has been removed. Many things have been resolved with your help, however please let me know if there is anything else that goes against the COI. I did indeed open the page and was waiting for it to come to people's attention in order for it to be worked on to the Wikipedia standard. Added at 11:06, 12 August 2020‎ by CharlottePonzio

Thank you for responding, CharlottePonzio; but unfortunately I don't fully understand what you're saying. A simple question to start: Are you related to Fabio Ponzio? (If the answer is "yes", you don't have to say what the relationship is.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Please let me know what I can clarify for you that is not clear — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlottePonzio (talk • contribs) 13:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, CharlottePonzio: Are you related to Fabio Ponzio? (If the answer is "yes", you don't have to say what the relationship is.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Good morning Hoary. Yes, I am related to Fabio Ponzio. Excuse me but when I opened up the Wikipedia page on Fabio Ponzio I did not know about the rules concerning the Coi. I have always been in good faith, in fact I signed with my name and surname. On the page I have tried to provide only objective and verified information in compliance with the Wikipedia community standards. -- CharlottePonzio (talk) 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for making this clear. I agree that your work on the article has been beneficial. The article should be developed further, if possible; but as it stands, it's not promotional. ¶ Wikipedia requests (but doesn't require) that you do two things. First, that you post Template:Connected contributor at or near the top of this talk page. (The method is explained here; I'd be happy to do it for you if you prefer.) Secondly, that you stop editing this article and instead post any suggestions for the article to this talk page. Various editors (including me) will have this article (and therefore its talk page as well) on their "watchlists", so we're likely to notice it if you post a message here. But if we don't seem to notice, you'd be welcome to nudge me more directly by posting a short message to my own talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 10:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Hoary thank you for kindly proposing this solution. If you think it necessary then I'm happy for you to go ahead and add the Template:Connected contributor. As you have said I will no longer edit or contribute to this article - in the case that there is any new information I will communicate it to this page and then to you directly if necessary. Thank you again for your help. All the best with your work and Wikipedia. -- CharlottePonzio (talk) 12:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

It's certainly beneficial; I've added it. ¶ I hope that Actes Sud does bring out the French-language edition of the book, and that this will help bring more reviews and other material that can help to amplify this article. -- Hoary (talk) 11:31, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

As soon as the French addition of East of Nowhere is released I will let you know. -- CharlottePonzio (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Dear Hoary I am letting you know two updates for the page, as agreed above. East of Nowhere was shortlisted for the Lucie Awards and the French addition of the book has also been released on the 3rd of February 2021 - Actes Sud. There is also an article on Photo-Eye to add. Best. -- CharlottePonzio (talk) 16:57, 05 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoary, if you've scrubbed the article for neutrality, you can remove the COI tag and update the checked by portion of the connected contributor box. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, thanks for the nudge. I'd be happy to do this, if doing so would be OK with you. (After all, it was you who flagged it in the first place.) -- Hoary (talk) 21:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Done. I think that the article is good. -- Hoary (talk) 09:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Book in French

The French-language version of his book is due to appear (from Actes Sud) in February '21: À l'est de nulle part. But let's wait till it does appear before adding a mention of it to the article. -- Hoary (talk) 08:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)