Talk:Faculty of Political Science and International Relations, Matej Bel University

Student organizations section

Does "Student organizations" section of article on Faculty of Political Science and International Relations, Matej Bel University present a neutral POV? 15:53, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I have tagged this article with a WP:COI tag since the major recent editor seems to have a close relationship with the subject which may make adherence to a neutral point of view difficult. As it stands, the "Student organizations" section reads more like a promotional leaflet than a Wikipedia article. If the major contributor does indeed have a conflict of interest it would be helpful if he/she followed WP:COI guidance SelomITC (talk) 17:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC))

The "Student organizations" section may contain an excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience. Also the sub-section "Euro-Atlantic Centre" is just duplicated content from the wiki article Euro-Atlantic Centre. Regarding the other sub-sections i have a suspicion they are entirely copied from "primary sources", in this case the Facebook fan pages of the particular clubs. SelomITC (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I came here in response to this notice on the Neutral Point of View board. User:SelomITC is correct - WP:NPOV on Wikipedia is maintained in part by making sure that all information posted to Wikipedia can be verified in third-party sources. Also, Wikipedia is not a directory so lists of student organizations are not typically included in articles about universities. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment - It appears that this article had a large-ish section on "Student Organizataions". It was removed 18 June in this edit. I have not scrutinized the section in detail; but its size did appear a bit out of proportion to the rest of the article. It is appropriate for this article to have a "Student Organization" section .. but it should be reasonably sized, and very objective. If anyone wants to re-insert it, or part of it, they should propose some new text here, and make sure it addresses any neutrality issues described above. --Noleander (talk) 06:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

The problem was that it was a list of groups which appear to be only referenced to facebook. By all means add them back in if you can find real references for them. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:02, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

• Delete. I agree with Stuartyeates - that was way too much detail on entirely non-notable student groups that are only tangentially relevant to the article as a whole - and worse still, written in the style of an advert. Add to that, the totally inadequate primary source references in non-WP:RS media and you have something that's not appropriate for Wikipedia. Deleting that section was without doubt the right thing to do. SteveBaker (talk) 13:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure, maybe there was too much detail. But it is customary for WP articles on colleges to include a short list of important student organizations. Acceptable sources for such lists are often "soft" sources such as the college newsletter or college handbook. WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM suggests that a better course of action is to just remove all the fluff and pare it down to 5 or 10 important items. --Noleander (talk) 16:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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