Talk:Fadak
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Propaganda
editUnder the Abu Bakr's rea subsection, someone has added a response from a Shia blogsite. Highly unnecesarry, as it has already been stated in the same subsection that the shia disagree with the mentioned explanation. Altering the subsection was in this case about one thing: Propaganda. 194.239.178.165 17:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- "However, these hadiths were never heard before the incident of Fadak, and no one had ever heard them except Abu Bakr."
The above mentioned is a lie! If this were the case, it would not be narrated with a sound chain by the Shia infallible imams now would it? 194.239.178.165 17:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I have also deleted the claim that Al Nasai deemed Fadak to be the personal property of the Prophet. The fact that he included such a narration in his Sunan is not an example of his own personal opinion, as it is a hadith collection, and he dit not deem all its content to be Sahih. 194.239.178.165 (talk) 18:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Yet more shia propaganda
editThe hadith from Bukhari quoted under the 'Umar's era subsection has already been dealt with in the article, and in fact, in no way does it support the claim that some property who was originally the property of Abbas and Ali was restored to them. Therefore, i have deleted it. It actually says:
'Umar said, "Be patient! I beseech you by Allah by Whose Permission the Heaven and the Earth exist, do you know that Allah's Apostle said, 'Our (i.e. prophets') property will not be inherited, and whatever we leave, is Sadaqa (to be used for charity),' and Allah's Apostle meant himself (by saying "we)?" The group said, "He said so." 'Umar then turned to 'Ali and 'Abbas and said, "I beseech you by Allah, do you know that Allah's Apostle said so?" They replied, " He said so."
I guess you did'nt even care to read it. Sa.valikian, in the future, you should participate on the talk pages instead of just writing something in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.239.178.165 (talk) 08:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
what about it today
editI deleted some sections from the "Ali's Era" section. I deleted the hadith quoted from al-Shafi, since the citation did not pan out. Al-Shafi is a four-volume source available on-line, and if a proper citation from that book can be found it can be added back to the article. I also deleted the subsequent reference to taqiyya, and its definition and rejection by most Sunnis as being irrelevant. If the purported hadith from al-Shafi is found to be properly cited and a reference to taqiyya needs to be made a hyperlink to an article on taqiyya would be more appropriate than a tangential, and hence incomplete, reference in the current article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.96.197 (talk) 18:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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Fatimah or Fatima
editThe article has both spellings intermingled. The Wikipedia article is at Fatimah. This is way outside my area of knowledge and there might be a reason for it, so I didn't want to make the corrections myself. If someone who has the background could fix it, the article would be better. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 00:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Primary sources
editIn the next few weeks, I'll hopefully revise the article to replace the primary and other unreliable sources with reliable secondary sources. Albertatiran (talk) 13:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Differentiation between Sunni and Shia sources.
editThis article switches between the Sunni and Shia view almost haphazardly. 2001:1970:5163:1200:0:0:0:E6B (talk) 01:06, 20 August 2022 (UTC)