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Funk-something genres
editRecent edit warring activity centers around the "funk metal" genre, and whether it should be removed. The following reliable sources have described the band as funk or funk-plus-something:
- Premier Guitar magazine. "the funk-metal misfits Faith No More". "funk-rock" [describing the song "Epic"]
- Consequence of Sound magazine. "Avant-garde, funk metal, post-apocalyptic lounge … however one chooses to describe Faith No More, odds are good he or she will be right, in some capacity or another."
- AllMusic band bio. "Bay Area alternative metal band that added funk, thrash, and carousel influences upon vocalist Mike Patton's entrance in 1989." "With their fusion of heavy metal, funk, hip-hop, and progressive rock..."
- The Quietus magazine. "Yes, these are the fools who would bust out a version of 'Easy' in the middle of a set of otherwise stilted funk-metal..."
- Orange County Register. "Faith No More never did what was expected, and while that caused the Bay Area metal-funk-prog-and-punk act plenty of headaches..."
- New York Magazine. "Faith No More, a San Francisco funk-rock band... If you like your metal funky and your funk played hard, Faith No More proves it's entirely possible."
- The Rough Guide to Rock, page 352. First fame came from the "funk-metal groove of the single 'We Care A Lot.'" The 1989 album The Real Thing is described as an "abrasive but stadium-friendly brand of melodic funk-rock."
- Drums & Drumming magazine, volume 3, Issues 1–5, page 14. "Faith No More are the first representatives of the burgeoning funk/metal crossover scene to infiltrate the upper reaches of the charts."
- All Music Guide: The Definitive Guide to Popular Music, page 145. "Faith No More: Alternative Metal, Funk Metal, Heavy Metal, Alternative Pop/Rock."
And the Faith No More blog says "How often the term funk metal was used before the release of The Real Thing in 1989 I do not know (and frankly I can't be arsed researching that) but it was used many times to describe the third album by Faith No More. As the press of 1989 couldn't find a category to neatly file TRT under they chose the recently created funk metal and FNM just shrugged their shoulders. At the time of release FNM were indifferent to the phrase, like any artist they didn't want their work to be pigeonholed but it didn't seem to irk them until the end of 1990 when the term was fired at them in almost every interview. FNM began to loathe this sign that had been hung around their necks and their reaction was to do everything in their creative power to write a forth album that would shove funk metal up the media's rear end!"[1]
This primary source actually reinforces the impression that the band can be described as funk metal, since it acknowledges how widely that label was applied to the band. So for any editors who prefer primary to WP:SECONDARY sources (Wikipedia prefers secondary sources), the primary sources also tell us that the funk metal genre should be listed in the infobox, as it was so prominent. Binksternet (talk) 04:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Faith No More
editI check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Faith No More's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "AllMusic":
- From Tomahawk (album): Butler, Blake. "Tomahawk - Tomahawk: Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards". AllMusic. AllRovi. Retrieved August 27, 2012.
- From Disco Volante: Prato, Greg. "Disco Volante - Mr. Bungle : Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards : AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved August 22, 2012.
- From Fantômas (album): Prato, Greg. "Fantomas - Fantômas : Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards : AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved 24 August 2012.
- From Timeline of heavy metal and hard rock music: AllMusic
- From Mr. Bungle (album): Huey, Steve. "Mr. Bungle - Mr. Bungle : Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards : AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved August 31, 2012.
- From Pills Against the Ageless Ills: York, William. "Pills Against the Ageless Ills - Solefald : Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards : AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved 29 August 2012.
- From The Blueprint Dives: "The Blueprint Drives Review". AllMusic.com. Retrieved 2013-07-15.
- From The Scream (album): Ned Raggett. "The Scream – Siouxsie and the Banshees". AllMusic. AllRovi. Retrieved 3 May 2013.
- From Siouxsie and the Banshees: "Siouxsie and the Banshees – awards [Billboard]". AllMusic. Retrieved 6 November 2011.
- From The Beach Boys: Bush, John. "The Beach Boys Biography on All Music.com". Allmusic. Retrieved October 26, 2012.
- From She (Maldoror album): McCarthy, Kieran. "She - Maldoror : Songs, Reviews, Credits, Awards : AllMusic". AllMusic. Retrieved August 29, 2012.
- From Transgression (album): Allmusic review
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Formation date
editThe article states that FNM formed in 1979 but this doesn't seem correct to me. Bordin and Gould were involved in SYM back in 1979 but that's a far cry from what became FNM.
I think it makes more sense for the band to be considered 'formed' after the core members quit Faith No Man and started Faith No More in 1983. Mike Bordin appears to feel the same way (http://www.faithnomorefollowers.com/2016/07/mike-bordin-interview-nacao-da-musica.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deframe (talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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Objectivity
edit"..along with other signature FNM elements, are woven together seamlessly throughout the album, making it a favorite among loyal fans" is opinion. What makes someone a real fan is subjective. This might need to be reworded by given sufficient facts or to be possibly deleted, please. 67.70.98.239 (talk) 00:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
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