Talk:Families of Frashër

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The article faces a big problem: it confuses the Frashëri family with the families of Frashër. The Frashëri family from which Sami, Naim, Midhat etc. came was the Gramshi family, who in the 17th century became the beys of Frashëri. The Alickaj, Totoni, Panollari families are the head branches of the Deda fis that lived in Frashër when Ayaz Bey Gramshi settled there.--Maleschreiber (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

I removed the new addition, the Frashëri brothers' family was not Aromanian, some publications seem to support this fringe theory, however they base this highly unlikely assumption just on the fact that some Aromanians are called Fãrshãrots. It is not enough, and sources which analyse in detail the history of this family are needed for such calims. – Βατο (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Βατο: The Frashëri family is not from Frashër. They were the beys of Gramsh who were deported to Frashër in the 16th century.Their adopted surname Frashëri is from a very late date.--Maleschreiber (talk) 18:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

It is more complicated than that. There were more than one family that bore that surname and it seems they were not of the same family branch. I am mentioning two names to say: Eshref Frasheri and Meleq Frasheri, both participants in Congress of Lushnje and there is no source to connect them one another nor with Naim, Sami, ect. Without counting the fatc that most families mentioned in article do not meet WP:GNG. Bes-ARTTalk 19:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bes-ART: The problems begin with the editor who created a Frasheri family article with the assumption that all families from Frasheri are one family.--Maleschreiber (talk) 21:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)