Talk:Fanno Creek

Beavers

I wonder if we'd be better off removing all mention of beavers in the "Fish and wildlife" subsection except in a general way in the opening paragraph. The latest addition, claiming that the 2009 beaver dams are gone, is likely true but appears to be a personal observation rather than something tied to a reliable source per WP:RS. The supporting link for the original beaver-dam claim no longer leads to a page supporting the claim, though it once did. Any thoughts about which way to go with this? Finetooth (talk) 01:42, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead today and removed all but one word about beavers. If anyone thinks this was a bad move on my part, we can negotiate a compromise. Finetooth (talk) 18:38, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Road names

The #Courses section mentions several roads by name. I suggest that we reformat them as follows: I suggest changing the way highways are mentioned in the #Course sestate highway numberction

First mention	Subsequent mention
Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway (OR-10)	Beaverton-Hillsdale
Beaverton-Tigard Highway (OR-217)	Highway 217 (or maybe Oregon 217 or just 217)
Scholls Ferry Road (OR-210)	Scholls Ferry (not actually mentioned a 2nd time)
Pacific Highway (OR-99W)	Highway 99W (or maybe just 99W) (not actually mentioned a 2nd time)

My suggestion is based on (1) the first mention includes the full name including the state highway number and (2) the subsequent mention uses the most commonly used name (IMHO). Comments? YBG (talk) 03:55, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but how would this improve things? Is the existing arrangement unclear? Finetooth (talk) 20:08, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

The current seems quite stilted, as though it were written by someone unfamiliar with the area, and over-emphasizes nomenclature that is little used. YBG (talk) 22:37, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

If by "current" you mean "prose flow", I don't agree, and I don't see how adopting your wording would improve the prose flow. I'm quite familiar with the area and the creek, but the article is meant for a global rather than a local audience. Someone in Australia, for example, will probably not know what "OR-10" means unless it is spelled out, and "Beaverton–Hillsdale" by itself may be puzzling, even on subsequent reference. Finetooth (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

By "current" I mean the "article as it is currently written". I'm quite sure that an Australian would understand that OR-10 is represents a highway 10 in a series of highways that all begin with "OR-", in the same way that I have understood "A-4" and "M-4" from Australian reassurance markers. More details, i.e., that "OR-10" means "Oregon 10" would be quite obvious by the hover-over text, just as I quickly came to understand -- without the benefit of hover-over text -- that in Australia "A-4" means a primary highway and "M-4" means a motorway. I will grant that it may not be obvious that "OR" means "ORegon" and not "Oregon Route". But while I really think my suggestions would be an improvement, unless a groundswell of agreement from other editors is generated, I am more than willing to leave it as it is. YBG (talk) 23:35, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly about this one way or the other. If any other editors agree with you, it's fine by me if you make the suggested changes. Finetooth (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

OR 10 is a road, as are neighboring articles with numbers, but OR-7 is a wolf—the seventh identified and tracked wolf in Oregon.

As long as cryptic identifiers are linked, I don't care which way it is written either. I have driven on Britain's M-4, but not nearly enough to remember where it is or goes. —EncMstr (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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