Talk:Fast Day
Latest comment: 2 years ago by DavidWBrooks in topic Monopolization of concept
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Monopolization of concept
editWhy does an obsolete holiday in one particular country get to monopolize an article headed "Fast Day" when one would expect this to cover a very widespread concept within Christianity, Judaism, and other religions, of which the US day was just one example. To say it is covered at Fasting is irrelevant. If it is Fast Day rather than Fast Day (United States) it should cover the entire phenomenon, as it did from March 2006 to May 2011. Wikipedia is not meant to be a US encyclopaedia. --PeterR2 (talk) 13:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Looking at the history, the material about other religions was removed by an editor who doesn't appear to still be active - nothing since 2016. I've put a notice on their talk page, just in case. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi! I've been on hiatus for a while and just saw this message. What if we rename this article to something like Fast Day (United States), and redirect Fast Day to Fasting#Religious_views? Alynna (talk) 15:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- But why? The term is (or was) widely used. Why should a defunct US holiday, which is just one example of a "Fast Day", get the monopoly on what was once a widespread thing, and for all I know may still be in current usage in some places? I feel that the material on wider usage gives background which makes clear that the US day (obscure as far as the rest of the world is concerned) was not just an oddity but part of a much wider pattern. The name certainly survives in some of the more conservative denominations in relation to one of the days of the Scottish Presbyterian "communion season" (see [1]), and in some places various businesses in villages were closed on such days as late as the 1990s. I don't see what is wrong with the article as it appeared in 2011. [2] --PeterR2 (talk) 01:19, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed that this article should cover fast days in general. --Macrakis (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looking back to 2010 versions, this article just had two sentences about other religious, and a couple paragraphs about the US holiday. It was very lopsided even then. Am I missing something? -DavidWBrooks (talk) 11:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed that this article should cover fast days in general. --Macrakis (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- But why? The term is (or was) widely used. Why should a defunct US holiday, which is just one example of a "Fast Day", get the monopoly on what was once a widespread thing, and for all I know may still be in current usage in some places? I feel that the material on wider usage gives background which makes clear that the US day (obscure as far as the rest of the world is concerned) was not just an oddity but part of a much wider pattern. The name certainly survives in some of the more conservative denominations in relation to one of the days of the Scottish Presbyterian "communion season" (see [1]), and in some places various businesses in villages were closed on such days as late as the 1990s. I don't see what is wrong with the article as it appeared in 2011. [2] --PeterR2 (talk) 01:19, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)