Talk:Father Stretch My Hands/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BeatlesLedTV (talk · contribs) 19:08, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

• I'll review this. Will get it done today. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Lead and infoboxes

• Infoboxes look good, although both should show 'various' on writers and producers for consistency
• In its current state, lead is way too short. Doesn't describe what the songs are about, nor does it discuss reception, only discusses chart listings

Background

• This whole section is out of chronological order. Start with proper background info, then go to late-June, then back to early-February.
• The Lamar sentence should be in 'composition and recording', not background
• The Drake sentence 100% does not belong in this section, belongs more in a 'legacy' section

Composition and recording

• Image needs alt text
• First sentence: Pt. 1 is referenced and Pt. 2 isn't
• Second paragraph is fine
• Third paragraph: Rate the Bars goes in italics since it's a video series (see MOS:ITALICTITLE)

In popular culture

• Section belongs below live performances

Reception

• Would be better to state something like "Father Stretch My Hands" received positive reviews from music critics, with most praising the sample...etc."
• Cudi → Kid Cudi (it's his stage name so the whole name is used)
• Some quotation marks are outside punctuation and some are inside
• "It was wrote by RESPECT." – extremely awkward; even though there's no author, something like "The staff of Respect wrote that Kid Cudi's hook..."
• Accolades

• Better if part 1 then part 2, not vice-versa
• While all West fans have their opinion on the bleached asshole lyric, this fact would be better in 'critical reception', as I wouldn't call it an "accolade"
• Kim liking the song also belongs in reception; it's not an "accolade"
• Table is definitely not needed for 3 awards. Would be better in prose

Samples

• Would be better written out in prose
• Sound Effects → sound effects; on top of that, change to "sound effects from Street Fighter II...

Music video

• Would be better retitled to 'Rumored music video' or 'potential music video', as their never was one so it's misleading
• "included and it gathered" → "included. The video gathered..."
• Last sentence reads weirdly, not sure why the fact that the song going platinum correlates to no music video. Would be simpler to just say "as of February 2018" or something like that

Commercial performance

• Tedious to say "Father Stretch My Hands, Pt. 1" every single time. I know it's titled that way on TLoP but here it gets tedious
• Why is "Pt. 1" going platinum stated before it going silver?

Live performances

• Again, tedious title
• "when he took the Saint Pablo Tour to Inglewood," you can't physically take a concert tour with you. How about "when he performed in Inglewood during the Saint Pablo Tour"?
• Don't need to say the song's title constantly. Just using "Pt. 1" and "Pt. 2" is fine.

Credits and personnel

• Fine

Charts

• Fine

Certifications

• Fine

Final comments and verdict

• All throughout the article, titles are not consistent. Sometimes, "Pt. 1/2" is used, other times "part 1/2" is used. Has to be "Pt. 1/2" since that's how West titled them.
• Many references are green and blue in the toolbox, on top of that, most should be archived.
• In its current state, the article has too many problems, so unfortunately, I'm going to have to ✗ Fail this. Perhaps with a large expansion it can become a GA in the future but for now, it's not GA quality. However, keep up the good work on West's articles, I know a lot of them could use expanding, and maybe you can renominate it the future! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:10, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.