Talk:Father Ted

Joan

Wasn't the scene with Mrs. Doyle's first name in it cut because the episode ran too long? I don't think it was ever meant to be a secret, it was just an accident that it was never mentioned on screen (of course, by the time The Mainland appeared, the "mystery" was sufficiently entrenched for them to make a rather poor in-joke about it.) --Bonalaw 07:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

That's right, the only mention of Joan as Mrs. Doyle's name is in the script. I'm going to edit this, if anyone wants to put it back in can they provide a citation of the reference? Cheers, Dave 22:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've edited this discussion section to remove Ms. Doyle's first name - not everyone WANTS to know her first name. It counts as spoiler; having it laying around in the discussion may spoil things for others. I will add a link to the article to a fan site where her name is given. Toby Douglass 09:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Before I begin I would like to remind readers that Wikipedia is intended to be an exhaustive knowledge source so it would have spoilers. In the published draft script of the episode Competition Time Mrs. Doyle's first name is given as Joan. However Graham Linehan stated in the DVD commentary with Arthur Matthews that Mrs. Doyle's first name was "going to be Joan" and in a transmission at the 2007 Tedfest he was going to reveal the first name of Mrs. Doyle but his voice was obscured by the sound of breaking china which implies that it is considered canon that the real forename of Mrs. Doyle is never revealed.Tk420 (talk) 20:14, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

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Trivia

Can we create a Trivia section please? For example, Tommy Tiernan explains that when filming the scene in (episode Going to America) where Father Ted is dancing to Shaft, Tommy made several mistakes which meant Dermot had to keep reenacting the scene, even though his heart and chest were hurting. He died the day after this scene was shot--Irish factoids (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2017 (UTC) (talk • contribs) 12:40, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Trivia sections are discouraged under Wikipedia guidelines as I noticed when they were more common when I first used Wikipedia in 2007 (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections for more information). Tk420 (talk) 15:39, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Shouldn't Father Ted be referred to as a British-Irish series?

Yes Father Ted was made by Hat Trick Productions for Channel 4 (both British), but it was written by Irish writers Arthur Mathews and Graham Linehan and had a predominantly Irish cast. It seems a bit unfair to refer to it as just "British-made" when the writers were Irish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.5.206 (talk) 05:39, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

This has already been discussed with the Rfc now archived (see Talk:Father_Ted/Archive 1#RfC: Nationality and edit notice for more information). Maybe the consensus on the nationality of the show should be included in this talk page (as opposed to being archived) if it continues to be controversial. Tk420 (talk) 15:39, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes this needs further discussion, other series in a similar situation are said to be Irish. Not UK/Irish but solely Irish. Father Ted should be, if any logic should be applied, both Irish and United Kingdom for country of origin. Please see my message in the the talk page for reasoning. HaussmannHouse (talk) 16:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

The nationality of a show is strictly determined by the production company that made it, and in this case, that company was strictly British. They may have hired Irish writers/etc. and shot it in Ireland, but the nationality of the production company remained British, so it cannot be called "British-Irish". We can refer to the show being based on an Irish parish house and that the lead creatives were Irish, but that's it. --Masem (t) 16:41, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

But the didn't "hire" Irish writers to write the show, it was already written and pitched to multiple production studios for funding. Hat Trick productions happened to be the ones who went ahead with it. It could have been an Irish production company, British company or another company from elsewhere. HaussmannHouse (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit to last message it was pitched directly to Hat Trick Studios. However my point remains, they could have not decided to fund it and instead another country's company could have instead. I don't believe it makes a difference to the fact that it is an Irish show. HaussmannHouse (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

It was done by The BBC in Southern Ireland which is part of Great Britain which is the United Kingdom! So its 100% British! You can also say its Irish as in actors, theme.Femanistfantastic (talk) 22:51, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Just to clarify a point, "Southern Ireland" as you refer to it, or "The Republic of Ireland", as is the proper name, is an independent nation and in no way part of either Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.232.227.242 (talk) 23:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Country of Origin

Father Ted is a show that was written by Irish writers, starring Irish actors, directed by an Irish director (seriea 1,2 and Christmas special) and filmed in Ireland. I think this warrants atleast recognition of origin from both the United Kingdom and Ireland instead of solely the UK.

HaussmannHouse (talk) 08:32, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please engage in this discussion? I want to have a discussion on this before editing it. HaussmannHouse (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

See above, the country of origin is based solely on the production company, which was British. This show would never have happened without British backing, Dermot Morgan got little support from RTE for his earlier satirical work. Credit where credit is due, there are plenty of cases where the British have taken underserved credit but this absolutely is not one of them, and they very much deserve all the credit they get for backing this crazy little piece of satirical comedy. It really was a big deal at the time that this got made at all. -- 109.76.139.121 (talk) 15:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Country of Origin

Third attempt to instigate a conversation that extends beyond "TV shows nationality is solely that of the producers". Hoping for reasoning relating to Father Ted which was created by Irish writers, directed by Irish directors and acted by an Irish cast in Ireland and only bought by a British company being not even British/Irish. HaussmannHouse (talk) 11:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

There was Talk:Father_Ted/Archive 1#RfC: Nationality and edit notice. A consensus was reached by due process. This is ridiculous -- as soon as I saw this page in my Watchlist, I knew what had been changed. The JPS^{talk to me} 11:54, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Dermot Morgan Death

Was this the reason there show didnt have a 4th season?--Femanistfantastic (talk) 22:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Correct. That is not just my opinion, I double checked to make sure reliable sources also say that too, and it is clear that Graham Linehan does not want to revive the show.[1] -- 109.76.139.121 (talk) 15:16, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

As I recall, back when the 3rd season was being made there was already a fair bit of talk of it being the last one. Dermot Morgan pretty much says so at the end of this interview from late 1997. Crisso (talk) 20:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)