Talk:Fear of Fours

Tone

I don't know who added that boilerplate about the tone of this article but they're completely right. A rundown of the time signatures in the album followed by a scene-by-scene walkthrough of one video isn't really appropriate for an encyclopedia. I don't know what to do with it apart from delete everything! Any ideas? Alexforcefive 00:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You're right: something has to be done! But I still think that the two sections contain some nice infos... Can't we make a brand new page for the video and re-arrange the section "Notable Themes" to make it more appropriate?? NiceGuyAlberto 06:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks like there used to be a separate article for B Line that was merged into this. If we could get some references on the B Line single, maybe it would be fine with its own page. As for time signatures, that was boldly added by one user, and could be boldly deleted without too much fuss..... --M.Nelson (talk) 17:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm the bold user, and if you were to be serious about the deletion of the time-signatures paragraph, I'd like to hear some sort of justification. Is it wikipedia policy, or does it merely feel out-of-place? I found the time signatures of the album fascinating, and it took me a few years (until 2006, it seems) to bother to sit down and work them out. I'm grateful for the subsequent contributions of wikipedia editors to my analysis to make it more accurate. Where else on the web would information like this best belong, and where else on the web would one look to confirm one's suspicions about the album on first noticing the unusual time signatures?

I read wikipedia policies and found a "Notable Themes" section on another album's page when I first decided to add the section (can't remember which) and that seemed to be the best way to do it. Just now I have followed a few links to articles from the List of musical works in unusual time signatures page... several of those works' articles mention their time signatures. It therefore seems appropriate to me that the Fear of Fours article should refer to its time signatures.

Since 2006 I've learned more about wikipedia's policy on 'original' thought, and the need for citations; is the reason for your claim of boldness merely the fact that the section is unreferenced? Anxietydescending (talk) 21:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Addition

Still the tracks that attract by unusual time signatures are the very first two ones! But they aren't mentioned in the first turn. 95.153.178.255 (talk) 21:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

B-line

"The fourth track is not included on the album's track listing. It is a single struck chord which effectively ends the song "B Line" preceding it. " - If anyone listens to both, it's clear that #4 is the actual ending of B-line, but the Lamb decided to be original and separate them. 95.153.178.255 (talk) 21:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Original Research

I've removed the following section about time signatures, which is unsourced and appears to be Original Research.

==Unusual additions and time signatures in the album==

The fourth track is not included on the album's track listing. It is a single struck chord which effectively ends the song "B Line" preceding it. This deliberate omission is a nod to the album's title, whose sentiment is revealed in a deeper level throughout the album: unusual time signatures. "Soft Mistake" is in ¹⁰
₈. "B Line" is driven by a prominent bass line in ⁶
₈, followed by the single note track 4. "Less Than Two" is in ¹²
₈, backed by a repeating twelve beat phrase "needing you wanting you loving you holding you", and "Softly" is in ⁶
₈. "Alien" continues in ¹²
₈, although the rhythms are at times ambiguous. "Five", the most intricate yet, is in ⁵
₈ – ⁵
₈ – ⁵
₈ – ⁵
₈ – ⁵
₈ – ⁶
₈ – ⁵
₈ – ⁶
₈, which could also be written as ¹⁰
₈ – ¹⁰
₈ – ¹¹
₈ – ¹¹
₈. "Lullaby" rounds off the album in a slow, lazy ³
₄ time. "Little Things" has a rather complex rhythmic pattern, which nevertheless converges to ⁴
₄, or a multiple, depending on notation.

However some of the tracks are more conventional: "All In Your Hands", "Bonfire", "Ear Parcel", "Fly" all have time signatures which are at least divisible by 2 or 4, even though they may not be written as ⁴
₄ per se. "Here" again has a ⁴
₄ structure to it, though the bass plays rhythms which stress this as ³⁺³⁺²
₈.

~dom Kaos~ (talk) 06:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)