Talk:February 3/Archive 1

Archive 1

The day that music died.....

....has to be listed either under the deaths or the events section; WP:DOY points to listing it under deaths, as arguably the event is not really of global importance (only notable in "western" countries, as a whole. Lectonar (talk) 08:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I really didn't have any strong feelings about removing or keeping the entry (all I wanted to do in the first place was undo someone's vandalism of it), but since bringing this up here was my suggestion, I guess I should add my thoughts.

WP:DOY makes it pretty clear that any entry which may be relevant to only one nation should probably not be included. If that's the case, I kind of doubt that a few other entries in this article meet that criteria. How is the merging of a Senegalese political party relevant to anyone outside of Senegal? Why is the establishment of Wake Forest University important?

If deaths of notable people are only supposed to be covered in the "Deaths" section, then why does August 31 cover the death of Princess Diana twice? After all, WP:DOY states that only assassinations or assassination attempts of influential figures are noteworthy, and although some conspiracy theories out there state that Princess Diana was assassinated, it is more commonly accepted that she died as a result of a car accident. WP:DOY does not currently make any suggestion whatsoever about how to handle notable accidents.

While it is probably true that the Day the Music Died may not have received much coverage outside the US at the time, it is still considered a significant event in the overall history of rock music. Besides the hit song "American Pie" by Don McLean, the event has still been touched upon in other songs as well as other media such as books and films, and it is still occasionally discussed or referenced in various news outlets even over fifty years after it happened. I'm pretty sure that means that this event has stood the test of time.

Not to mention, the event was apparently notable enough to be mentioned on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 3, which was transcluded on Wikipedia's front page at least twice without incident and is currently transcluded at the top of this talk page. Yowanoreo (talk) 11:28, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is never completely correct; even if policies exist, they are not enforced in the same manner. I'd say yes, you are right about many entries about events which should not be in the here or on other day-articles, and right about Diana's death, which should obviously not be listed twice on the same day. But people watching day articles are few and far between. I do not care about this one here especially, either, but I thingk it should not be mentioned twice. Oh, and although I have the impression you are not really new to wikipedia, have a look at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 12:28, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Building on what Lectonar said: The watchers of the DOY pages usually see the last thing that was touched. So the other stuff that doesn't belong often gets missed. I, for one, rarely (but not never) go through all the events on a page to see what doesn't belong. The selected anniversaries pages are not a good example to bring up here. They have a different set of watchers in most cases, and they follow WP:OTDRULES. With that said, OTDRULES is supposed to use WP:DOY as it's minimum criteria, but things slip through the cracks. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 13:21, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Ottawa

"1916 - Parliament buildings in Ottawa, Canada are burned down." - Was the fire deliberate or accidental? To my eyes, this sentence implies that someone intended to burn the buildings down. - Jim Redmond 16:27, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It was accidental (although some people suspected "the Germans", of course). Adam Bishop 20:13, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. To reduce future confusion, should we maybe change that entry to something like "Parliament buildings in Ottawa, Canada burn down" or "Parliament buildings in Ottawa, Canada are destroyed by fire"? - Jim Redmond 22:46, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

"Burn down" sounds fine to me ("destroyed by fire" could still be arson, in my mind anyway). Adam Bishop 22:47, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

"Burn down" it is. Now to add a link to the article on the Parliament itself... - Jim Redmond 23:23, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Holly

The Buddy Holly plane crash actually took place on Feb 3, it took off at 00:58 local time - see the coroner's report --Bob Palin 17:38, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Superbowl

The 2008 Superbowl was broadcast in 232 countries. You are terribly mistaken if you think that it is not globally notable. Kingturtle (talk) 16:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The Super Bowl happens every year. It is very predictable that it will happen next year. It isn't notable unless it breaks a record. If it were considered notable, every instance of every Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup, World Cup, Wimbledon, French Open, US Open, etc. would be listed. Doesn't seem reasonable. The first Super Bowl is notable. Discussed here. -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 17:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Four Chaplains Day

1943 - Four Chaplains, a priest, a rabbi and two protestant ministers of the United States Army gave their lives to save other soldiers during the sinking of the SS Dorchester during World War II. An act of Congress declared February 3 "Four Chaplains Day" in 1948. Their story of religious unity is famed throughout the armed services and United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.69.1 (talk) 22:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Errors

I notice some serious errors with the calendar "February 2010" shown on the top-right of this page.

The hyperlinks on the dates in that calendar are incorrect.

Feb 1 -- linked to Jan 1; Feb 3 -- linked to Mar 3; Feb 4 -- linked to Apr 4; Feb 5 -- linked to May 5;

...and so on.

Also, I see a new empty section called "Documentation" in the beginning of the article.

Someone who is familiar with this page layout, please fix these issues. Thanks!

Raghuveer 04:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghuveer.v (talk • contribs)

Just noticed: All pages for February seem to have this issue. something seriously wrong! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghuveer.v (talk • contribs) 04:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire to be removed

Ottoman Empire hadn't incorporated Mamlûk Burji Sultanate of Egypt at the time. The Portuguese navy defeats a joint fleet of the Ottoman Empire, the Republic of Venice, the Sultan of Gujarat, the Mamlûk Burji Sultanate of Egypt, the Zamorin of Calicut, and the Republic of Ragusa at the Battle of Diu in Diu, India. Hanberke (talk) 06:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)