Talk:Fedayeen (band)

Latest comment: 13 years ago by 24.215.17.185 in topic Issues

Issues

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Does the band have a website or anywhere I can order CDs? I heard some of their music on YouTube and it's kickass!!24.215.17.185 (talk) 06:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

As it is now, this article does not have verifiable sources, and it's not clear if the group meets Wikipedia's notability requirement. This article also reads like a review and should be rewritten, just for that point. I did some wikification, but it's by no means done.mcornelius (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Typical megalomaniacal misuse of wikipedia. This band and their history is totally fabricated and/or refers to comments on their myspace page. This does not constitute any sort of accomplishment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.21.3 (talk) 16:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


These guys are friends of a friend, and I happen to be a fan who has all 3 cd releases, and copies of the Bitchface and Stamp media articles. They did in fact recieve threats via email, 2 from Wahabbis and 1 from an outraged Iraq vet. This and the Taqwacore article it links from are of note because they describe a previously unheard of North American Muslim punk movement that is growing at a very rapid rate, with documentaries made and even a feature film shown at Sundance 201071.236.230.189 (talk)

Key words in the above description are unheard of. That they're up-and-coming may mean they're notable in the future, but it does not mean they are notable today. That they are friends of someone's friend is irrelevant. Wikipedia is not a blog. The article, as written, is not to standard, though, and should be improved. (And Wikipedia is not a forum to discuss friends of friends' musical aspirations. All of that being said, it doesn't look like this article is currently nominated for deletion, so by all means, improve it, but with references. mcornelius (talk) 01:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the help. I'm new to this. Yassinmerrigan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC).Reply

Thanks for the tips. I'm new to this so appreciate the help.71.236.230.189 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC).Reply


Taqwacore was unheard of until about 2005, but has since become a cult phenomonon. See Taqwacore for the movement, The Taqwacores for the book by Michael Muhammad Knight, The Taqwacores (film) for the feature film screened at sundance, or Taqwacore (film) for the documentary by Omar Majid screened at Toronto. Who's friend this band might be is irrelevant, but this growing Muslim based sub-culture is definately not. My comment about a friend of a friend and having the albums and publications was only to debunk the untrue allegation that their bio info was fabricated. These guys are one of a handful of bands revolutionizing both Islamic expression and punk music, and unless they need to reach classic rock status and have 3 gold records to rank here, they should be included so the other pages making reference to them can have some info to link to. Peace.71.236.230.189 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC).Reply


OK, citations given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.230.189 (talk) 06:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I see that, but they need to meet WP:verifiability. This article still has multiple issues:
  1. Notability
  2. No reliable sources
  3. It is still a stub
  4. Unencyclopedic (as it stands now)
  5. etc… (those are the issues that stand out the most right now, but it's likely more).
This article, as it stands now, does not seem to be under consideration for deletion, so please improve it. You don't need to be defensive about keeping it, but just try to improve it the most you can. (I do err on the side of including things in Wikipedia, but look at the articles for some other bands, and see how much information a typical such article has.)
Because it is a poorly written (so far) article, please leave the {{Multiple issues}} template in it for now. I'll try to improve the style of the article, but the content is up to those who know more about it. mcornelius (talk) 06:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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Also, Bitchface Magazine is given as a source, but if you google it, this page seems to be the only result. Do any of you know any more about that magazine? It doesn't seem like a reliable source. (If it's notable, it could certainly deserve an article of its own.) mcornelius (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


Bitchface is an indie art and music magazine/audio zine available only in hard copy. It features indie and punk music from around the world, spoken word, poetry, and reviews. With the whole DIY ethic of non-commercial punk culture, verification can be hard and the internet is often entirely avoided, but if you want a subscription it's free, just go to papasagg242@hotmail.com and shoot them your address.71.236.230.189 (talk) 06:52, 28 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Is it available in any libraries? mcornelius (talk) 09:26, 28 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


I added some updated info about this band, and I have citations for everything but am late for class and have to go, so please everyone do me a favor and dont delete the changes till after I get back this evening and add all the refrences, etc. Thanks.24.20.26.232 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply