Talk:Fedora (short story)

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Based5290 in topic The Criterion

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The result was: promoted by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy talk 09:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that one commentator interpreted a kiss between two women in "Fedora" as possibly following the "heteronormative script"?
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Based5290 :3 (talk) 19:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC).Reply

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Overall:   Mrfoogles (talk) 05:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Criterion

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Hello Based5290, firstly, thanks for this article.

I noticed you removed the Criterion link with edit summary "almost certainly not the right magazine, was published in St. Louis". Before adding the link I did due research and I remain convinced they are indeed the same publication.

The mentions of the owner Davidson and the editor Dumay especially tie them.

The article I linked, The Criterion (American magazine) tells us:

"The Criterion originated as St. Louis Life, an offshoot of New York Life magazine. The two magazines shared editorial content until Grace L. Davidson purchased St. Louis Life in 1896 and changed the name to The Criterion. She ended the magazine's relationship with New York Life and began publishing original material. The following year Davidson appointed Henry Dumay as editor. Dumay urged Davidson to relocate the magazine to New York. She agreed and the September 25, 1897, issued debuted as a New York publication."

Page 23 of Ewell (current ref 3 in this Fedora article) talks of Davidson and Dumay.

This has "Mrs. Davidson was interested in building an entirely new magazine on the foundation of the St. Louis Life. Soon after her purchase, she changed the name to The Criterion and began printing more and more original material. Sometime in the next year, Henry Dumay, a transplanted Frenchman and regular contributor, became editor. He convinced Davidson to move the magazine to New York, which she did with the September 25, 1897, issue."

This talks of "...Kate Chopin's "literary salon." Mrs. Moore's magazine St. Louis Life later evolved into The Criterion headed by Henry Dumay".

I'll leave it to you. Thanks again for the article. JennyOz (talk) 08:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, that is actually pretty convincing. There was this Library of Congress entry that described a different magazine that was actually local to St. Louis, which is what led me to believe that it was in a different The Criterion, but it's possible the 18?? end date refers to when the magazine was bought by Davidson. Good catch. Based5290 :3 (talk) 03:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply