Talk:Felix Z. Longoria Jr.

2004 Comment

Felix Longoria is important in the history of Mexican-American civil rights. [[User:David Johnson|David Johnson [T|C]]] 19:37, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

What the heck has happened to this stub? Will revert

This used to be a very good stub. But since the 01:42, 30 March 2007 Nobunaga24 version there has been quite a bit of vandalism by User:66.94.97.114 in April 2007. I have reverted this article to the 30 March 2007 Nobunaga24 version and I will also add the contribution of 18:59, 25 May 2007 Searchme to my revert as well as the contributions of User:195.22.28.18 in May 2007. Chicaneo 08:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I dropped the longoria.net external links, which were to a genealogical site that had next to nothing on the article subject, just his parents name. I just don't think they're "meaty" enough to justify inclusion in the article. Also added a bibliography section, there's a book on the Longoria affair. Haven't read it, but since it's University of Texas press, it's probably worthwhile. Studerby 14:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been meaning to read up on Pvt. Longoria so I can contribute to the article more. Thanks for the book ref.Chicaneo 00:02, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

What does the Z for his middle name stand for?

I believe it is Zapata, but I will need to check with my aunts.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 03:52, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

User:70.120.88.79 = User:Chicaneo

Sorry, I keep forgetting to sign in. All edits by User:70.120.88.79 were done by User:Chicaneo. No, there is not a phantom, unregistered editor out there.  :) Chicaneo 01:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

"The rest of the story"

I just deleted some material whose edit summary referred to it as "the rest of the story". That material needs a reliable source to insure that it is WP:verifiable. Also, since Longoria's widow is presumptively alive, the material must comply with the biography of living persons policy. Studerby 16:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

My family was raised in Three Rivers. Mrs. Kenedy was a good friend of my grandmother who died in March 2007. while racial discrimination does occur, in Three Rivers and other parts of the US - it was not an underlying motive in the Longoria case. Additionally, citing references does not make information factual. The Felix Longoria Jr. case is far from true and it sickens me to hear the lies of 1949 bandied about to this very day by those wanting political cannon fodder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brittvincent (talk • contribs) 20:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

While you may have some special information about this, the problem is that Wikipedia is not based on what is "true" (because too many people argue about what is or isn't true), but on what is verifiable, since most well-intentioned people can agree on what reliable sources actually say, even when there are conflicting versions (policy is that all reliably sourced conflicting versions may be represented in an article). If there's a reliable source for that point of view of Mr. Kenedy's actions, then the article can reflect that, properly cited. If there's a reliable source for the material on Longoria's widow, then it can be included, again with proper citations. To quote Wikipedia policy:

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed.

Studerby 20:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

There has been a movement among the friends and family of Mr. Kennedy, to whitewash the historical record with websites like [1], but the PBS Ombudsman did a detailed review of complaints regarding the issues raised [2] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:16, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

It is Time

Beatrice Longoria died in 2008, and it is time to update this story. This is the kind of thing that foments unrest in South Texas, and breeds unnecessary resentments. -- lbravo —Preceding undated comment added 22:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

The unrest in South Texas is due to longstanding issues that have not been resolved and only a full airing of the past can help heal the wounds of the past, NOT pretending they did not happen. Thanks C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

The problem in Southwest Texas, including Three Rivers, is that they have never accepted and embraced the racism of their past, as their past; but are still fighting it. This is where Three Rivers could learn a lesson from Monroeville, Alabama on acceptance of the past as the past, while not having the future of the town defined by it's past alone. You can not have reconciliation with the events of the past without acknowledging the events of the past, this is the lesson humanity has learned from South Africa to Canada. Questions regarding the lack of African Americans in Live Oak Country in the past, must be answered as well as the traditional subjugation and segregation of the Mexican Americans in that area in the past. When these questions are asked and answered, then and only then can the area past, their past; but not by fighting the very existence of these issues in their past.[3]C. W. Gilmore (talk) 23:06, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Corpus Christi Newspaper

Can anyone help locate the original news article written by reporter George Groh of the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. It has the most timely and accurate accounts of the conversation between the reporter and the funeral home director. Thanks C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:22, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Segregation in Texas Cemetaries

It appears that some of these issues continue: [4][5], perhaps the continued legacy of segregation in Texas should be another topic or should it be a section in this article?C. W. Gilmore (talk) 18:53, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

The American G.I. Forum filed a federal lawsuit against the Normanna Cemetery Association charges that they violated long-standing civil rights protections when it refused Dorothy Barrera in February of 2016, because her husband was 'Mexican' and not allowed burial in the city cemetery. Other links for this story [6][7][8][9]C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Segregated cemeteries have been illegal since 1948 when the U.S. Supreme Court banned racial covenants on real estate,[10] but in many places it still occurs to this day.[11] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 19:45, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

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