Talk:Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts

Overemphasis

The article places way too much emphasis on the prestige, excellence, etc of the people granted fellowship. Certainly SOME are eminent, but as the Society's site states, "We welcome anyone over 18 who is aligned with our values and who shares our vision of a better future, one where everyone can participate in its creation." An 18-year-old is extremely unlikely to have a lengthy career of "world-changing" importance. Case in point: reality TV personality Ryan-Mark Parsons (see his article), per his own site: "At the age of 18, Ryan-Mark was granted a Fellowship of the Royal Society of Arts". By that age he hadn't even been on the Apprentice; as his article indicates, he'd merely done the run of upper-middle-class, privately-educated young person's internships. He certainly hadn't "changed the world" in any meaningful way! More to the point, the description of the requirements and the process involved is less than exacting; certainly, not every applicant may be granted fellowship, but whether or not a concerted effort has been made to be more inclusive/ representative of "up and coming" youngsters in their "ambition... to build a society which works for everyone and in which everyone participates" to avoid accusations of fustiness and irrelevance, that certainly appears to be the current situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.205.195 (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah- and this page makes it clear all the blather about only the cream of the crop making it through is inaccurate: https://www.thersa.org/fellowship/join/information-about-applying — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.205.195 (talk) 02:40, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Also warranting consideration, upon which the tone of the article needs sorting- from https://www.thersa.org/fellowship/join/faqs: Q- "How likely is it that I will be accepted? A- It is very likely that you will be accepted to the Fellowship, you do not need to be a leader in your industry or a CEO of an NGO. Our ethos is inclusive, and we welcome all who are aligned with the RSA's vision and share in our values." Speaks for itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.205.195 (talk) 02:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. I've altered the lead to make it match the current reality. EddieHugh (talk) 11:19, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Good move, it is not very selective. --Gilgul Kaful (talk) 11:20, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

The promotional "outstanding", "exceptional", "significant" etc wording has been re-added by an IP editor. I'll remove it in due course (unless someone else does so before me), as it goes against the consensus here, but it would be good to get some independent sources that report on the history of the award and some details of when it is/was genuinely an award and not something that is purchased. EddieHugh (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Article should be merged with "Royal Society of Arts"

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Proceeding with merge. Historylikeyou (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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It duplicates much of the material from Royal Society of Arts. Any objection? Historylikeyou (talk) 09:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. The lack of independent (not promotional) material that's specifically about this indicates that a separate article isn't warranted. The need for RSA context also supports a merge: 'semi-duplicate' and 'context' at WP:MERGEREASON. However, the process described at Wikipedia:Merging should be followed. EddieHugh (talk) 17:20, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.