Talk:Felony murder rule

By Country

The By Country headline in this article can probably be removed. It only includes the United States, and the description is similar to the Description section's paragraph that details US law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyJake (talk • contribs) 15:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a "By jurisdiction" heading would be more descriptive? That would still be inclusive of other countries if material on them is added later. Verkhovensky (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

No vandalismo, ma informazioni con fonti sui sistemi penali italiano, francese, spagnolo e tedesco. 95.75.78.144 (talk) 23:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

All Murder Not Felonious?

Isn't all murder a felony in the US (probably everywhere else too)? Can someone explain the difference between regular murders and felony murders? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UNSC Luke 1021 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Do self-verified administrators/users reject source-supported fixes? but wasn't wikipedia free????

Felony-Murder = preterintencion cfr. Cadoppi Mens rea; G. Fletcher Felony-Murder; Macallister scothland law; WEINREB Felony-Murder; etc. 95.75.78.144 (talk) 19:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Inclusion of examples?

Should the article include examples of the rule being applied? I'm on the fence about this, but leaning no.

An IP editor had just added Derek Chauvin as the first such example. I'm loathe to revert, although I don't think it's needed, in part because I'd previously reverted them for an unsourced addition, and I don't want to jerk them around now that they've used a source; and part because I don't feel that strongly about it.

Maybe a section (apart from jurisdictional sections) of "Notable cases of the felony rule being applied" or the like? The most prominent example of this is Bruno Hauptmann's conviction for the death of the Lindbergh baby death. (It's not dealt with in detail in the article, but because the prosecution had no evidence of premeditation, they could not seek first-degree murder, which carried the death penalty. They wanted to go the felony murder route, but, somewhat incredibly, kidnapping was only a misdemeanor under New Jersey law. They finally realized that he technically committed burglary, a felony, by breaking into the house and steeling the kid's pajama -- which just happened to have a kid in them -- and so succeeded in a murder conviction and death penalty under the felony murder doctrine. See. e.g., [1].) TJRC (talk) 00:19, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Expansion of criticism section

Don't just revert without commentary. I do not judge -- I simply note that criticism of this sort exists, and ought to be documented here. Please explain why you feel otherwise, EvergreenFir. - Tenebris 66.11.165.101 (talk) 05:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Non vandalismo ma correzione/integrazione

Italia: 1) https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/atto/serie_generale/caricaArticolo?art.versione=1&art.idGruppo=56&art.flagTipoArticolo=1&art.codiceRedazionale=030U1398&art.idArticolo=584&art.idSottoArticolo=1&art.idSottoArticolo1=10&art.dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=1930-10-26&art.progressivo=0

2) Schraffl, I. (2011). Dizionario giuridico inglese-italiano: integrato con il lessico politico. Italia: Giuffrè.

3) Pagliaro, A. (2007). Il reato. Italia: Giuffrè.

4) Environmental Crime in Europe. (2017). Regno Unito: Bloomsbury Publishing.

Francia:

1) https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006417608

2) Pin, X. (2023). Droit pénal général 2024 15ed. Francia: Groupe Lefebvre Dalloz.

Germania: 1) De Vero, G. (2012). Corso di diritto penale. Italia: Giappichelli.

2) https://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=2030883

Spagna:

1) Tratado de Derecho Penal. El CÁLCULO LEGAL. (2021). Messico: Editorial Arquinza S.A de C.V. 95.75.78.144 (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)