Talk:Fiat S76 Record

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Look-aa in topic Questions

noting https://grrc.goodwood.com/festival-of-speed/latest/video-legendary-28-litre-fiat-s76-driven-for-the-first-time-in-100-years#2cHQqQKEyJIUh7pg.97 vidoe of being driven Gnangarra 12:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Questions

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All the information I have uploaded so far comes from open source, but a few pieces of its history elude me.

1. What happened to the No. 2 car's engine? There is a gap in my data between its race in 1911, and being shipped to Australia (sans engine) in the 1920s.

2. If the No. 1 car was dismantled in the wake of WWI, how did it's engine survive for so long without being stripped for parts or scrapped like its chassis?

3. Where did Pittaway find the No 1. car's engine?

TheNuclearMedic (talk) 11:29, 2 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello @TheNuclearMedic, this is a very late reply, sorry!
Regarding question 1, in this Australian forum nobody ever heard of an S76 being shipped over there, and never heard of such race:
https://forums.autosport.com/topic/94880-fiat-s76-merged/
From post #44 onward, you can read what Australian car historians have to say. It’s a long read, but really worthy.
Regarding question 2, its engine landed in the hands of the Politecnico di Torino, Italy:
https://areeweb.polito.it/strutture/cemed/museovirtuale/memoria/4-02/4-201/float/ac006.htm
Regarding question 3, Mr Pittaway found it in that museum, and according to this link (in Italian) asked for it on loan, recreated it, and shipped back the clone:
https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/12/news/papotti_belva_di_torino_motore_opera_d_arte-282229313/
Long story short, the director of the museum gave it on loan without asking to the Ministry of Cultural Heritage (it is a public asset, being something older than 75 years old living in a museum) and when ten years later or so the car got cranked up, someone got suspicious and went to check the engine received back from Mr Pittaway ten years prior.
The felony (if there is any) is now in prescription, so nothing has been done further that point. And from the first link, the original chassis may not even exist, because who knows? There are no documents, pictures, drawings, nothing. Any frame of more or less that wheelbase length could have served the purpose, as there was absolutely no way to check the originality.
For this reasons I don’t feel like celebrating Mr Pittaway, and I am really dubious about the originality of the S76 of the modern days. Look-aa (talk) 17:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Torque output

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290 hp at 1900 rpm converts to 801.6 ftlbs at that rpm. It may possibly have more at a different rpm. 2001:56A:F03F:5200:5137:23B6:5909:2A7C (talk) 02:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)Reply