Talk:Fictional national animals

Do the Bundesadler and Berliner Bär really count as "fictional animals" in this context? Aren't they just real, symbolic animals? If not, would the loon on the loonie count as a "fictional national animal" of Canada, or the eagle on the USA Great Seal? - Montréalais

Yes, you're right - I don't think they belong here. I edited them out and replaced them with something more fitting. Sandman 09:51, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I think there's a confusion here between "fictional" and "folkloric"; the wild haggis, jackalope and dropbear are obviously works of fiction, but really, can we say that beings from folklore and ancient and modern legend are fiction, even if they don't exist? Serendipodous 17:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Redirect to List of cryptids

This article has long been a redirect to List of cryptids. Lately an IP has been undoing the redirect and putting the list that was here a long time ago back. I posted the below on the IP's talk page, and am copying it here for reference. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I wanted to ask you why you keep undoing the redirect from Fictional national animals to List of cryptids? List of cryptids seems to be a much better presentation of (essentially) the same information. It includes the names of the creatures, a description, information about the locations where they are purported to be found, and illustrations if applicable. Fictional national animals, on the other hand, is just a bare list of links, organized by location. The concept of these being "Fictional national animals" is also problematic, as the concept of a National animal implies not just that the animal is found in a location, but that it is a prominent part of that nation's iconography. The creatures in the list of fictional national animals, however, do not seem to be limited to those that play an important role in the culture and iconography of those nations, but rather those that are or have been rumored to exist in those locations. Basically, Fictional national animals is problematic on a number of levels, and List of cryptids fixes many of those problems and is a better presentation of essentially the same information. Please stop undoing the redirect, or if you still feel it should not be a redirect, please explain why. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Actually this should be deleted rather than redirected because the target doesn't discuss whether cryptids are "national" or not. "not mentioned at target" is a reason to delete a redirect. Siuenti (씨유엔티) 03:07, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I think the history of this article needs to be retained for copyright purposes because the content was merged there. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 03:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)