Talk:Ficus macrophylla/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 14:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Happy to offer a review. Josh Milburn (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

• Are the figs eaten by humans? Generally, I think a little more about human uses would be a nice addition to the lead. (I see this is mentioned in passing in the description section.)

Hmm. All figs are techcnically edible, but most (including this one) are unpalatable. So no-one would eat these ones by choice. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "Both forms are native to Australia, with form columnaris of macrophylla having colonised Lord Howe Island." This feels like repetition.

rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:01, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "Rønsted and colleagues suggest this last form might be the most ancient of the three taxa." You've lost me, here. Which form? I think that the taxonomy section might sometimes be a little technical, but I'm not going to get too excited about that for GAC purposes.

they meant forma columnaris, but it is speculative and the paper doesn't comment on why. Based on this one speculative line only, I have removed the line. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "on New South Wales south coast" The? Wales's?

yes, added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "watercourses on alluvial soils" Jargon

I wasn't convinced it was that jargony...linked now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "Other bird species include" Other bird species that eat the fruit, presumably?

yes, added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• Pleistodontes froggatti isn't linked at the first mention.

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "as well as F. rubiginosa and F. obliqua" those of?

yes, added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• What are "casual specimens"? I think we should probably have categories for New Zealand, Hawaii/US, and perhaps Turkey(?)

changed to "Occasional garden escapees" Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• (No action needed; just a note to say I appreciated the mention of urban wildlife!)

yes, this is why I have prioritised fig trees - they support masses of wildlife and are really important habitat and food plants for cities like Sydney...so should be planted in every public park possible...but gardens...you still see people plant them and worry that years later they will have invaded any drains or building foundations they are near. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "their huge size precludes use in gardens" Could this be phrased more like it is in the lead? Obviously, large gardens could (and do?) have them.

tweaked to "all but the largest gardens" as the gardens have to be huge Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "internodal growth" Jargon

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "It is can be used as an indoor plant in medium to brightly lit indoor spaces" Copyedit needed!

yes, fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "little girl" is a little colloquial

tweaked "little" to "young" Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "There are specimens in several parks in Liguria (Bordighera and Sanremo)." A bit of a limp point to finish on, and apparently unsourced.

yes, removed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:01, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

That's everything from a first read-through, but I've not looked at the sources/images yet. Please double-check my edits. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:18, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

• Some of the sources used in the "Notable specimens" section aren't great. I'd consider cutting this down a little.

I ditched one - the others remaining are all superlative in measurements in some way, one has a spiritual significance, and they seem to form a significant architectural feature across old squares of Palermo... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• The source on this image is dead, and I find the licensing questionable. Perhaps this image would be preferable?

images switched Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

• "The term has also been mistakenly generalised to other fig species in Australia." What's the source for this?

Interesting - years ago many figs here were known as "Moreton Bays" even if they were other species, but looking at sources now, they don't mention this. Maybe people have gradually dropped the incorrect appellation. Anyway, I have removed it. I have just now found some bits (like the tallest fig tree, in Qld) which have no reliable sourcing so have removed. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• Sorry if this is a silly question, but does it favour particular kinds of host trees when it grows as an epiphyte? Or just any it can find? (Is this what you're talking about when you mention it growing "with" certain plants?)

no - it can grow on (and smother) any species of tree. The ones it grows with are just the species that it is found with in certain plant communities. Does it sound ambiguous? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• "Caterpillars of the moth species Eustixis caminaea can strip trees of their leaves." Eustixis redirects to Lactura; the species Lactura caminaea is listed there. I appreciate that you may not know much about moths, but could you look into this?

It does indeed appear to be now in Lactura again as per this, so changed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:30, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

• I've added an image of the fruit and leaves to the taxobox. I admit there were a lot to choose from, so my option may not have been the best; I did think that an image of the fruits was something the article lacked. Feel free to replace/(re)move the image if you think appropriate.

that image is a good one. A really classic image of the leaves and fruit. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I've made a few more fixes; please double-check! Josh Milburn (talk) 10:36, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

one error fixed. Else fine Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Great; I'm happy that this is basically where it needs to be, so I am going to promote it now. Good working with you. Josh Milburn (talk) 16:21, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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