Talk:Field marshal (Russian Empire)

Demoted Field-Marshals

Why not include demoted Field-Marshals? Kmorozov 14:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. If they ever held the rank of Field Marshal then they should be included. However, they should only be included if there are full details for them, not just a surname. -- Necrothesp 14:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I supplied a guiding link at the bottom of the page. --Ghirla | talk 15:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

If existence of resource somewhere in internet is a reason for not include demoted Field-Marshals then it is a reason for not include any of them. Kmorozov 06:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

It's OK to name them when you have something more than just a surname. Also, I believe that redlinking is not very helpful. Let's start the article first and then provide links to it from other articles. Lists full of redlinks look slovenly to me. --Ghirla | talk 11:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Both of them has biographies, e.g. by Bantysh-Kamensky at [1] Kmorozov 11:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I have to say that whether you like red links or not is not very relevant, since many wikipedians are perfectly happy with them. -- Necrothesp 12:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 09:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

List of Russian Field Marshals → General Field Marshal – This list will be incoprorated into a full article, as in Marshal of the Soviet Union. --DmitryKo 14:52, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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Voting and discussion

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• Oppose. This article is long enough to stand on its own. An article about the rank should certainly be created, but it should be titled Field Marshal (Russia), since General Field Marshal is also the translation of the German term. -- Necrothesp 20:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
  • comment I don't quite understand the logic. Generalfeldmarschall is a Field Marshal as well - why don't we move it to Field Marshal (Germany) then? --Dmitry 20:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Fine by me. Howevever, the logic is that since General Field Marshal is the translation of both the German and the Russian terms it should not be used exclusively for the Russian rank. That's like saying Field Marshal should be used exclusively for the British rank! -- Necrothesp 22:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose as per Necrothesp. I recognise your thinking, DmitryKo, but I'd also say that this list is too long to add to a prose article. Regards, David Kernow 23:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose herr generalfeldmarshall is not a Russian. 132.205.45.148 19:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
  • comment It's named "Генерал-фельдмаршал" in Russian, which is a direct copy of the German rank (see ru:Табель о рангах and Russian military ranks. --Dmitry 20:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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Complete list?

The book Za víru, vládce a vlast (by czech military historian Jiří Fidler) states, that there were 72 general field marshals, not 64 (as it is in this article). Can I complete it, or not? --Silesianus (talk) 11:32, 13 August 2011 (UTC)