Talk:Fifteenth Doctor

Who is the "Fourteenth Doctor"?

I can see an edit war a-brewing on the horizon, and we've had both Tennant AND Gatwa referred to in an official context as the "Fourteenth Doctor" thus far, so... how should we handle this? StrexcorpEmployee (talk) 20:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

It's a good question. It's probably more likely that Gatwa will officially be the Fourteenth Doctor whilst Tennant 2.0 is a placeholder for the anniversary. I imagine they'll designate him closer to the anniversary with a title like the "Anniversary Doctor". This was done to John Hurt's incarnation, who is the "War Doctor" and not the "Eighth-and-a-Half Doctor". I think we will need more info before we commit to these titles/name changes, though these could easily be reverted and moved in the future. Dark knight 2013 (talk) 21:10, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Per the BBC's press release, Tennant is the Fourteenth, and Gatwa is the Fifteenth. There is no disputing this. -- Alex_21 _TALK 22:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually Ncuti has previously been called the "Fourteenth Doctor" in other releases. StrexcorpEmployee (talk) 16:12, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Those were all released before 13 regenerated into Tennant's doctor however - some of those were released before Tennant's return was announced, and others were released at a time when, officially, there was no comment on the role he would be playing other than that of "the doctor," implying 10 may be returning via time travel. Presumably this was to hide the fact that 13 would be regenerating into Tennant until the scene aired, as every statement by everyone involved since then calls Ncuti 15 and Tennant 14, with Ncuti even changing the first line of his instagram bio from "14" to "15".

Honestly I'm skeptical this is planned to stick, and I think there'll be some reveal in the 60th that this is some sort of illusion or something, but as of now this is the official status and fan speculation isn't what we should be basing the title of the article on.

I think the current article mentioning that he had been previously claimed to be 14 does enough to cover this. Wexford001 (talk) 02:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

The general consensus amongst the fanbase is that David Tennant is the fourteenth and Gatwa is the 15th SeekerOfKnowledge123 (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Appearances

Article says 1 appearance, 1 episode, but he's been in 2. Toonsip (talk) 04:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

As the credited lead Doctor. -- Alex_21 _TALK 05:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Swapping the lead image

The file File:Ncuti Gatwa 3 cropped.png depicts Gatwa in costume as the Fifteenth Doctor. This image conveys a large amount of the detail necessary for understanding the character, and given its status as free to use, should be prioritized for usage on the article over the current copyrighted image. My only hesitancy would be over the strange purple lighting used in the file, but I don't think it interferes enough to cause problems.

In any case, given the large amount of free to use media released under Gatwa's first season depicting him in costume, I would not be surprised if another image could be used instead of the one listed above. I believe this would be beneficial to look into, given Wikipedia should use as little non-free use media as possible. Thoughts? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

[Note, I wrote this part of my reply on my phone before looking on a desktop computer] My only hesitancy would be over the strange purple lighting used in the file I don't think the lighting is an issue. In recent years photographers are learning that photographing people with darker skin requires different lighting techniques to create effective pictures. See the poster for Moonlight (2016 film) for example, or watch almost any episode of Insecure (TV series). [The sentence after this I wrote after looking on a desktop] Having seen the picture on a big screen now, I can see that the highlights on the forehead are perhaps a bit off; unduly prominent, perhaps, if not blown. But that's looking at the picture full-size. As it would appear as a thumbnail in the lead, it's less noticeable and I think the image would be more than usable. It can always be replaced if a better picture emerges in the future. As for now, I think you've made a strong case for the image you've found. JustAnotherCompanion (talk) 23:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Not wanting to be pedantic but although Gatwa is in costume in the proposed image, he's not in character; it's from an interview/promo. In an article about the character, I think that's important. U-Mos (talk) 12:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Are there any videos featuring 15 that have been released under Creative Commons? I know there's a preview clip that's used in Rogue (Doctor Who) for example, and I'd wager there's a good chance of other clips potentially having something we could use. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:53, 8 August 2024 (UTC)