Talk:Fiji Muslim League

Latest comment: 18 years ago by Davidcannon in topic Redirect to Muslims in Fiji

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  • Read Indo-Fijian section "Religious and social divisions : 1920 - 1945". Second paragraph:

More controversially, it (Arya Samaj) called in 1929 for the forced conversion of Muslims to Hinduism.

  • Read Indo-Fijian section "Religious and social divisions : 1920 - 1945". Fourth paragraph:

The Fiji Muslim League was founded in 1926. It defended the Muslim community against Arya Samaj attacks, and appealed to the British colonial authorities for help.

The Fiji Muslim League is also actively pursuing the conversion of indigenous Fijians from Christianity to Islam and has attained some success in this initiative.

--User:Siddiqui

First of all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Calling the Arya Samaj fascists is a POV and a serious allegation. Refrain from using such terms on Wikipedia. Secondly, please do not remove POV tags until the dispute is resolved over the concerned issue. Also, certain pieces of information seem confusing: Fiji Muslim League objects the "forceable" conversion of Muslims to Hindus but at the same time pursues the conversion of Christains to Islam?! In that case they don't have any right to object the conversion of Muslims to Hindus --Deepak|वार्ता 18:00, 26 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
Fiji Muslim League did not "forcibly" convert native Fijians. Arya Samaj threatened to forcibly convert Muslims to Hinduism and also resorted to attacks on Fijian Muslims in 1920s. Peaceful missionary work is acceptable whether done by Christians, Hindus or Muslims. But threats of forced conversiona and attack are in different category.

--User:Siddiqui

Okay, I get your point. Can you provide a neutral source alleging the Arya Samaj for carrying out forced conversions. --Deepak|वार्ता 14:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
I never said that Arya Samaj carried out forced coversion of Muslims. I quoted that they 'called for' forced conversion of Fijian Muslims to Hinduism.
  • Read Indo-Fijian section "Religious and social divisions : 1920 - 1945". Second paragraph:
More controversially, it (Arya Samaj) called in 1929 for the forced conversion of Muslims to Hinduism.
--User:Siddiqui 15:44, 27 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I think I have given you many references to support my argument. If you have references to counter this argument then please submit them. If you fail to submit any references then I will remove the "totallydisputed" tag after two weeks from todays date. --User:Siddiqui 03:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I went through the reference you gave. Read the article you wrote on the Fiji Muslim League. It says It defended the Muslim community against fascist Hindu organization's, the Arya Samaj, communal attacks and their plans to forcebly convert Muslims to Hinduism.. The reference you gave says that FML alleges the Arya Samaj for forcebly carrying out conversions. Your reference doesn't declare the Arya Samaj as fascist organisation forcebly carrying out conversions. A possible solution to this issue is that you make the language of the article more encyclopedic. Consider this for example: The Fiji Muslim League alleges the Arya Samaj for forcebly converting Muslims to Hindus. It aims to protect the Muslim community of the country against the Arya Samaj's alleged communal attacks. --Deepak|वार्ता 05:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
* Read Indo-Fijian section "Religious and social divisions : 1920 - 1945". Second paragraph:

More controversially, it (Arya Samaj) called in 1929 for the forced conversion of Muslims to Hinduism. Calling for "forced conversion" is not an allegation but it is a fact.

  • Read Indo-Fijian section "Religious and social divisions : 1920 - 1945". Fourth paragraph:

The Fiji Muslim League was founded in 1926. It defended the Muslim community against Arya Samaj attacks, and appealed to the British colonial authorities for help. FML "defended Muslim community against Arya Samaj attacks" is not an allegation but it is fact. I cannot add "alleges" but can drop "fascist". The article would be: Fiji Muslim League is a Muslim political party based in Suva, Fiji. The Fiji Muslim League was founded in 1926. It defended the Muslim community against Hindu organization's, the Arya Samaj, communal attacks and their plans to forcebly convert Muslims to Hinduism. Nearly 7% of Fiji's population is Muslim. The Fiji Muslim League is also pursuing actively the conversion of indigenous Fijians from Christianity to Islam and has attained some success in this initiative. --User:Siddiqui 06:38, 31 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hmm... fine I'll remove the tag and drop the word fascist from the article. Thanks --Deepak|वार्ता 06:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Redirect to Muslims in Fiji

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I suggest that this page be redirected to Muslims in Fiji which contains a comprehensive account of the Muslim community in Fiji, the activities of the Muslim League and the relationship of Muslims to others in Fiji.

I disagree, because not all Fijian Muslims are affiliated to the Muslim League. Articles will eventually be written about other Muslim organizations in Fiji, too. David Cannon 01:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Reply