Talk:Filippo Strocchi

Latest comment: 5 years ago by RoySmith in topic Accepted?

Accepted?

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@Worldbruce: I'm curious why you accepted this draft. It had been declined twice, and as far as I can tell, none of the problems cited in the previous declines have been addressed. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:44, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@RoySmith: I try to review every draft with fresh eyes. That means not assuming prior reviews were necessarily correct or still apply, but not ignoring them either. The problems called out before were: biographical notability and verifiability.
The article's WP:THREE are Gazzetta di Modena,[1] il Giornale,[2] and Berliner Kurier.[3] They get a bit lost among references of questionable independence (musical.it, Palermomania.it, spettacolinews.it, teatro.it - all of which look suspiciously like press releases) or questionable reliability (TuttoDanza, Peeparrow, Cultweek, Lifestyleblog.it, Musical Vienna, wein-ticket.at, avb.amstetten.at, and buehnenlichter.de), but the three are sufficient to pass WP:BASIC and they are not the only independent, reliable sources cited.
When I started stepping through the draft I was adding {{cn}} tags right and left, but found that with each additional source I analysed, I was going back and removing most of them. The problem is not verifiability, but structure. The second tiny paragraph, for example, may appear to be unsourced, but the content is supported by the source cited at the end of the third tiny paragraph. Any remaining problems are best addressed in mainspace.
I don't particularly like the article, but don't see a policy/guideline-based reason for it not to be accepted. There is a cadre of reviewers who openly ignore the guidelines, on the grounds that they're highly experienced, and "know what belongs" in Wikipedia and what doesn't. Their attitude is useful in keeping out some articles that I agree don't belong, but where the guidelines are perhaps too weak. That path seems to lead to anarchy, however, and I can't bring myself to ignore the guidelines even if I dislike the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:25, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

OK, that's reasonable. I wouldn't have accepted it, but I also don't think it's so bad that I'm going to drag it to AfD. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply