Talk:Fingolfin/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs) 04:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I will be reviewing this article as part of the June Backlog Drive.

This article was already pretty solid when it was nominated. A bit short (almost too short to be a GA), but I'm going to AGF that you included all the available information out there about this character. One indication of this is that the sources used, both the primary and secondary sources all seem solid. (See below for more about your refs.) I'm AGF that the character descriptions from the primary sources are all solid and support your descriptions of them. The prose follows the standards of WikiProject Middle Earth, including using past tense and in-universe/out-of-universe writing. The images all seem good and are tagged correctly. (Love the maps!) No evidence of edit warring.

Thank you!

Problematic refs:

• Ref1: It's okay for GA, but you need more specificity for each statement supported by this source. For example, Tolkien's illustration of Fingolfin's heraldic device is on p. 190 and the quote that ends immediately before the ref is on p. 195.
  • I'd say it's fine as it is really.
    • And I agree; I should've said that it was only a suggestion and up to you to follow it or not.

• Ref4: Could you include more information from this source into the article, or is that against Middle Earth standards? I ask because you may be able to mine more information from it to include in the content in the article. This is just a suggestion and has no bearing on the promotion of this article to GA. Somewhat unrelated, are you mining your sources enough? Or are there others out there you could use? I ask because if there's more content that can be added, you may be able to make it more comprehensive.
  • The major scholars don't say much about Fingolfin, and there isn't much that can reliably be added on the Tolkien figure; many of the sources concern the legacy, which of course may grow with the years. I've added a bit more from Fontenot. I've been a bit chary of that source but she was (at the time she wrote ref 4) a careful PhD student (she's also published in Tolkien Studies), and Tor.com seems to be an acceptable publication.

• Ref5 is broken.
  • It's moved to JSTOR.

• Ref7: Not the best source to support the simple statement that Blind Guardian wrote a song about the character. Is there a better one you could use? If not, no worries.
  • Not easy, the sort of folks who write about death metal music are, um, kind of the head-banging type, and they tend not to write in politely reliable journals. I think ref 7 is in fact a website of record, such as it is.

That's all I got. Nice job; keep up the good work. Once you address the couple of ref issues, I'll promote this to GA. Best, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:20, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! Thanks for the changes you made and best to you as you continue to write about Middle Earth. Going to go pass article now. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 02:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)