Talk:Fire Emblem: Thracia 776

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Supahdenning in topic Incorrect synopsis
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Reviewer: Haha169 (talk · contribs) 07:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


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Hello, I will be your GAN reviewer for this article. Below are my comments:

Some copyedits: Overall not bad, some grammar and stylistic suggestions below:

  • it originally released through -> it was originally released through
  • No version has been released in the West. -> No version has been released outside of Japan.
  • Maps hold a variety of different terrains, from flat plains to mountains: combined with a unit's own abilities, the environment affects movement. -> the colon in the middle should be a semi-colon, or at least: "from flat plains to mountains, and when combined with a unit's own abilities, affects movement."
  • and range and speed of movement on the battlefield: these classes range from axemen and swordsmen to thieves -> separate into two sentences
  • Thracia 776 was created by Fire Emblem series developer Intelligent Systems: it was designed and written by series creator Shouzou Kaga, and produced by Takehiro Izushi. -> Thracia 776 was created by Fire Emblem series developer Intelligent Systems, designed and written by series creator Shouzou Kaga, and produced by Takehiro Izushi.
  • Kaga chose her after being favorably impressed by her drawing abilities, bringing her on board for both Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776. ->Kaga chose her after being favorably impressed by her drawing abilities and brought her on board for both Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776.
  • with Kaga commenting that it would have been simpler to create a completely original title if they had seen how big the project would become -> with Kaga commenting that it would have been simpler to create a completely original title if they had known how big the project would become
  • The Fatigue system was introduced to bring additional challenge. ->The "Fatigue" system was introduced to challenge players further.
  • This version released on January 22, 2000. -> This version was released on January 22, 2000.
  • reached 106,108 units as of 2002: this made Thracia 776 the worst-selling -> reached 106,108 units as of 2002, making Thracia 776 the worst-selling

Sources: All the sources look verifiable and reliable, just one suggestion:

  • Add a lang= and trans-title= parameter into the Japanese language sources to help with verification

Great work with this article! I don't see anything wrong with stability, neutrality, or broadness in its coverage. No copyvio issues found, but I am having trouble with the dab links tool; I trust you've run it? Let me know once you fix the issues above and I will take a look at the article again. Best, haha169 (talk) 07:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Haha169: Thank you for the review! I have done all your suggested fixes (although I changed Fatigue to fatigue instead). I have added the lang parameter to Japanese sources, but as my Japanese knowledge is limited (and I was not the one adding them in the first place), I'd rather not attempt to do a direct translation of the titles. This is not a GA criterion anyway, so it should be okay for now.--IDVtalk 08:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Well-written:
  •  YI've given the article a copyedit and I'm satisfied that the prose surpasses WP:GA? guidelines and WP:MoS.
  • Verifiable with no original research:
  •  YThere is no original research, everything is well sourced from verifiable sources, and no copvios found. I have found nothing in the article to be skeptical of, but be aware that editors may challenge certain aspects of the article (WP:NOENG) and translated quotes from the Japanese sources may be needed. But this is fine for now.
  • Broad in its coverage:
  •  YThis article is comprehensive and stays on topic
  • Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  •  YThis article is neutrally written and shows no apparent bias.
  • Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  •  YThis article is stable and there is no edit-warring currently happening.

    Apologies, I accidentally clicked the "save changes" button early by accident. You've done a great job with this article, so I'm passing it! Good work, and congrats! --haha169 (talk) 09:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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    Footnote 24 is a dead link. The translation patch can be found at an alternative site, RomHacking.net -- http://www.romhacking.net/translations/4653/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.136.117.32 (talk) 06:11, 29 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

    The notes section is incorrect

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    It's very obvious that the employee who wrote that article for Nintendo where in a footnote they call the sixth game in the series, 封印の剣, the seventh, made a mistake.

    The author of that note on this article and many of the other Fire Emblem Wikipedia articles incorrectly cited that interview and claimed that because the author of that source made a factual error, there is now somehow "debate" as to which number in the series Thracia 776 and the later games are, even though there has never been any question both before and after that interview was published.

    Thracia 776 isn't even mentioned in that source anyway, so to claim that it supports the notion that that game is "alternatively known as the 5th and 6th game in the series" or that there is "disagreement from sources" is factually wrong or at the very least, extremely misleading. 68.37.250.33 (talk) 17:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

    Incorrect synopsis

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    Leif is not the heir of the "Republic of Munster", which is not how republics work anyway, but the kingdom of Leonster which is part of the Munster District, the collective name of the political region of North Thracia which is a loose confederation of states. This error stems from the incorrect Project Exile fan translation.

    Referring to Finn as "a friend of Seliph's father Sigurd", while correct, is probably prioritising the wrong information, since him being a knight of Leif's late father Quan, Prince of Leonster, is certainly more relevant to the matter. None of the synopsis mentions the critical fact that the game revolves around, namely that North Thracia/Munster was conquered and occupied by the Empire of Grannvale, with almost the entire game being a resistance effort against it, and Raydrick being their installed client ruler. The current synopsis talks about Leif "facing the forces of Thracia", but that is not what the game is about; the Kingdom of (South) Thracia, while a nominal ally of the Empire, is generally uncooperative with it and not a major enemy faction in the game. Who Leif is actually fighting is the Empire of Grannvale, especially its constituent duchy of Freege, which is in control of North Thracia.

    While Raydrick will always become a Deadlord, various other characters can as well, and it is probably not necessary to include as far as the story summary goes.

    I propose a broad rewrite. Supahdenning (talk) 23:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply