Talk:First National Bank Tower

Building Square Footage

I removed a portion of the article that stated:

The building has a floor area of 339,638 sq ft.

The infobox lists from "skyscrapercenter.com" 729,998 SF. The county assesses the building at 1,040,949 SF, and a sprinkled square footage of 1,068,760 SF . Each likely using a different method of measuring floor area. I am not sure how the 339,638 SF is calculated, but the information of square footage of the lot is also inconsistent with the assessor. So I removed that sentence to reduce confusion with the information in the infobox. Paltron (talk) 18:00, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

References

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 03:30, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Overall: A surprising number of copy tweaks needed, particularly that design section. There's one reference that doesn't seem to support the intended use and some general cleanup to be done as well. 7-day hold to Etriusus. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie:, thanks for doing this review. All points have been addressed to be best of my ability. Kicking the page back to you. Etrius ( Us) 18:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Copy changes

Lead

• in downtown Omaha, Nebraska and needs a MOS:GEOCOMMA  Done
• Construction began in April 1999 and lasted will 2002 — "until"  Done

History

• Make sure all uses are "Woodmen Tower", not "Woodman"  Done
• Kiewit Corporation was chosen as the general contractor and the total cost of construction was placed at $225 million. Comma needed after "contractor"; there are subjects both sides of the conjunction. User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences  Done
• which was imploded on April 2, 1999 to make way for the current skyscraper needs a MOS:DATECOMMA  Done
• The building was officially completed in 2002; with a height of 634 feet (193 m) and 45-stories in total. Change the semicolon to a comma (the part after is not a sentence) and drop the hyphen between "45" and "stories".  Done
• The finished building's official address is 1601 Dodge Street, in downtown Omaha. I wonder if this sentence is redundant to the lead section.  Done Moved to infobox
• Is there an appropriate article to link to for "axial shortening"? This detail might be removable, honestly.  Done There isn't an appropriate link. cut
• This building has been described by CEO James Blackledge as "on the scale of the First National Bank tower",[11] and estimated that building will either be the same height as or overtake First National Bank Tower as the tallest building in the state. Something needs a rework here.
  • Drop the comma and start after the ex-quote with "and estimated to either be...".  Done

Design

• The bottom 6 stories are designated as the building's base, and host a parking garage nearby. — Write out "six" and remove the comma.  Done
• is a series tunnels — need an "of"  Done
• A 2 hour fire rated floor was constructed with 5.25-inch (13.3 cm) concrete. Maybe "two-hour fire-rated"?  Done looks like someone already got this
• The perimeter girder slabs were reinforced with steel while the rest were reinforced with synthetic fiber. Exterior steel columns were spaced at 10 feet (3.0 m) around the building's perimeter and composite wide-flange beams extended 47 feet (14 m) between the building's core and the exterior columns. Back-to-back sentences that do need a comma after "and" because a subject and verb exist on both sides.  Done
• "largest single placement of concrete in the state of Nebraska" This quote is from the ESCSI study, which should be cited here.  Done
• Comma after "in diameter". Would also like to see this paragraph end with a source  Done Not sure how that source got chopped off
• Consider metric conversions for the tons and PSI numbers in this paragraph.  Done Is there a template for this? The convert template couldn't handle these conversions so I did them manually.
• The steel support structure of the parking garage was encased in concrete to emulate a cast-in-place style of construction while the rest of the parking garage was built by cast-in-place concrete. This was done because the design lacked expansion joints, separation joints, and post-tension concrete, thus the concrete design was connected to form one single structure. Add a comma after "style of construction"; change the comma before "thus" to a semicolon and add a comma after "thus"  Done
• Southern wall should not be capitalized  Done
• Change "5th" to "fifth"  Done

Source spot checks

• 4 (WSJ 1999): Checks out for the three feet taller than St. Louis and Des Moines structure claim; the GC and cost; and start of formal construction
• 6 (OWH 2022): Checks out for all claims.
• 7 (USA Today): Does not check out for the claim ending "which was imploded on April 2, 1999 to make way for the current skyscraper.". Does another reference discuss the Medical Arts Building implosion? I found which you can use.  Done
• 11 (AP article): Includes the used Blackledge quote.

Other items

• Should references 1 (Emporis template) and 8 (cite web to Emporis) for the same resource be consolidated?  Not done

I've tried a few times to consolidate but the page is insistent on considering these two separate sources. Honestly, its beyond my technical experience.

This should be done now. One citation called {{emporis}} and the other {{cite web}}. Replaced the former with an invocation of the latter. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

• Consider providing alt text for the images in the infobox and gallery. The images are all libre licensed.  Done
• Archive references with WP:IABot (do this after adding the Medical Arts implosion if you do).  Done
• Earwig mostly catches quotes and award titles and one or two very hard to reformulate passages from that ESCSI study.

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that First National Bank Tower, standing at 634 feet (193 meters), is the tallest building in the state of Nebraska? Source: https://www.emporis.com/buildings/101138/first-national-tower-omaha-ne-usa
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  • Comment: 5th DYK nom, QPQ not applicable yet.

Improved to Good Article status by Etriusus (talk). Self-nominated at 01:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC).

• Hi Etriusus, review follows; article promoted to GA on 14 September; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing from the sources; hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; no QPQ is required. Looks good to me. There are freely licensed images in the article that could be used, if desired - Dumelow (talk) 06:53, 14 September 2022 (UTC)