Talk:First Nigerian Republic
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editThis article is prejudiced against the North. further more it espouses the authors opinions without giving reliable citations. --Alaminalpha (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
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UPGA
editI don't see any mention of the UPGA under political parties or elsewhere on the page. Before I add anything, I thought I'd post here and see if anyone had thoughts on this (I've seen some say that the UPGA shouldn't be considered a political party). Rjhatl (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Two weeks of listing, three opposes with valid reasons, and only the proposer in support. (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 15:24, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- First Nigerian Republic → Nigerian First Republic
- Second Nigerian Republic → Nigerian Second Republic
- Third Nigerian Republic → Nigerian Third Republic
- Fourth Nigerian Republic → Nigerian Fourth Republic
– In French First Republic, moving French First Republic to First French Republic was opposed, where the argument was "the Nth Republic" was a single term and "French" was a disambiguator. Relisted. BDD (talk) 19:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC) --Article editor (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2013 (UTC) Article editor (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
UncertainOppose (edit: opinion firmed up). First, the discussion at French First Republic was not a clear consensus in favor of this particular grammatical interpretation; it was a 'no consensus' decision. I'm unsure whether it is wise (or even a reason) for moving page titles based on a 'no consensus' close. If that discussion had reached a firm result on the issue, it could be one (of many) criteria used in this discussion, but without clear direction it seems largely unhelpful. Also, there's no inherent reason these sets of pages (French and Nigerian) would have to be consistent in usage (what possible accuracy or educational gains would there be in making the pages parallel?). Second, that grammatical interpretation is far from definitive: it is as correct to say First Nigerian Republic as it is to say Nigerian First Republic, maybe we prefer one over the other based on Wikiguidelines--but no consensus seems to have formed on the issue (see point #1). I prefer the current order b/c I think it is nicer sounding to have "First" modify "Nigerian Republic" then to have "Nigerian" modify "First Republic". But, they are largely equal, I think. Third, usage appears to be mixed on sources but doesn't appear clear to me (looking at google books, it appears to cut about 60-40% in favor of "Nigerian X Republic"). So in general, seems to be a mixed bag with no clear direction one way or the other. So what exactly is gained (in terms of accuracy or educational value of the page) with a change? AbstractIllusions (talk) 11:18, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. The only argument put forth above in favour of these moves seems pointy to me. Andrewa (talk) 08:43, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
- This wasn't meant to be pointy. I don't actually care which word order we have a consensus on, but I do want to have a consensus. --Article editor (talk) 14:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- Can I ask why you want to have a coherent usage across pages that have no relation to one another? I can understand wanting coherent usage across similar pages (all the Nigerian pages should certainly use a similar order), but what is gained by the project in making sure that all "Country nth Republic" pages are the same? AbstractIllusions (talk) 00:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- Exactly. This would be promoting a standard terminology, which is something we try to avoid doing. Andrewa (talk) 01:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose - the rationale given is very weak, it was the opinion of one editor, not a whole coterie. The primacy of "Fooian Nth Republic" or "Nth Fooian Republic" really depends on the context and as mentioned above there appears to be no consensus amongst sources. Green Giant (talk) 00:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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