Talk:Flag of Jamaica

FOTW

More should be abstracted from the Flags of the World Jamaica page[1].

No, as FOTW is not consifered a reliable source per WP:RS. - BilCat (talk) 07:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Scottish influence?

I was in a bagpipe band. We sometimes had Jamaicans in full dreds carry our flags and lead us in parades. They said there was something significant about Scottishness and their freedom. They wore full kilts and had adopted the clan of a Scottish-Jamaican. I also saw a Bob Marley documentary once, which showed what appeared to be the St. Andrew's cross on a govermental building in the background. Though there is no 'official' consensus on the Scottish flag's influence on the Jamaican saltire, and the colors are of course all Jamaican!

Even odder though is that recently in Germany the conservatives have been using Jamaica's flag because of the color symbolism and their coalition party's colors. Khirad 20:36, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

True Facts

The true facts surrounding the Jamaican flag are these. The Rev William R.F. McGhie was a Presbyterian Minister working before, during, and after Jamaican independence in August 1962. The Rev McGhie came from Glasgow in Scotland and was a friend of the Jamaican Prime Minister Sir Alexander Bustamante. The original Jamaican flag was to be 3 vertical stripes (a tricolor) of green, black, and gold. The Rev McGhie, however, commented to Sir Alexander that, as a Christian country, he felt that the national flag should reflect this and have a cross in it. At Sir Alexander's request, he drew out the Scottish flag substituting the blue and white of Scotland for the green, black, and gold of JAmaica as it is at the moment. As far as I am aware, Scotland and Jamaica are still the only two countries in the world to have a saltire as their national flag. I know these facts to be true as the Rev McGhie was my father and I was there when this meeting took place. I hope this information will clear-up any misconceptions. 194.176.105.35 11:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)John McGhie

Without reliable published sources, it's no help at all. - BilCat (talk) 07:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Interesting ... Could this childhood eyewitness account be verified or triangulated, as an ethnographic source? Nozem (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Does the Jamaican saltire also signify, like the Scottish, the patronage of Saint Andrew? For I can find no reference for a patron saint of Jamaica. Nuttyskin (talk) 04:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Two questions

1. Why is this not on the list of flags by country?
2. Is this the only national flag that does not contain white, or any shade of blue or red? NBK1122 (talk) 16:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Libya -- AnonMoos (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

2019

Close, but the star and crescent are white. --177.158.172.32 (talk) 00:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

My 2008 comment naturally referred to the flag of Libya AS IT EXISTED IN 2008... AnonMoos (talk) 23:09, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well, is there currently any other? --177.42.142.187 (talk) 19:13, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

The Flag of Mauritania contained no red, white, or blue before 2017. As far as I can see, there aren't any current national flags without any of these colors, as long as you're willing to allow latitude in the definition of "red" (Sri Lanka). There's even a map at https://i.imgur.com/NDjib3p.png -- AnonMoos (talk) 00:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

P.S. You can look for yourself on List of flags by color combination... -- AnonMoos (talk) 16:14, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

The first proposed flag in the article seems wrong...

According to this article in the Jamaica Gleaner: http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20100701/cleisure/cleisure4.html the first proposed flag was not a simple horizontal tricolour of green, gold and then black (or even a vertical tricolour of green, black and gold as was claimed by another poster in an earlier section) but rather "a design with horizontal stripes, arranged with a centre black band with gold stripes above and below, with outer stripes of green at the top and bottom.." So it seems like the flag was almost exactly like the Tanganyikan flag at the time.72.27.2.37 (talk) 04:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

You may be right that the first Jamaican flag had three horizontal stripes and not vertical. I remember seeing it in the Daily Gleaner before my father suggested the current flag. Rob McGhie. -- 15:32, 9 July 2021 72.177.238.53

Blazon

I'm not not sure I understand the blazon given in the article; I would have thought that it would be something more like Per saltire Vert and Sable, surmounted of a saltire Or. AnonMoos (talk) 11:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Source for the change in symbolism

There is a claim in the article: "It was changed in 1996 to black representing the strength and creativity of the people which has allowed them to overcome difficulties, gold for the wealth of the country and the golden sunshine, and green for the lush vegetation of the island, as well as hope." However, I checked the source, The World Factbook web page referenced after it, and there is no mention of this there at all. So, what is the basis for this alleged change in symbolism? 2001:99A:2E13:3A00:1D07:8D8C:D710:D5CD (talk) 04:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)