Talk:Flag of Slovakia

Ratio

The article says that the ratio of the flag is 1:2, but the ration of the image is 2:3. Which is true? --Romanm 08:27, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The official ratio is 2:3. Juro

Revolution against who?

The article says that the Slovak flag was used first during the revolution against the Magyars in 1848. I don't think that the Slovaks were fighting against the Hungarians, cause the main power was in the hand of the Habsburg dinasty. The two nations united to reach their common goal namely put the Austrian rule away. This is a little error but should be corrected. Thanx!

The error, and a huge one, is on your side. The Slovaks organized campaigns to support Habsburg troops to defeat the Magyars in Buda/Pest and to get a Slovak crown land in return (which did not happen). A kind of independent Slovakia was even declared for a while. Juro 03:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Vertical flag

I am not sure that the vertical flag depicted in the article is incorrectly hoisted having the blue colour closest to the finial. Many countries have rules about vertical versions of their flags stating that the order of the colours should be reversed (and turned 90 degrees) in a vertical flag. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 00:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Slovakia has such rules, so what we see is the wrong way round, but isn't the flag simply being viewed frm the rear? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosice1234 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Cross

Might not be important, but I'd say (as in, I'm not learnt in this field and with no research) that the cross on the flag is Patriarchal cross and not the Cross of Lorraine. Seems like a more plausible explanation of its origin. (The explanation in question was found on the page "Cross of Lorraine") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.229.222.222 (talk) 23:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Similar flags

My removal of the "Similar flags" section as subjective original research has been reverted by 46.107.119.195 with the edit summary "NOT original research. Fact". My point was not that the two flags in the section are not similar to the flag of Slovakia. My point is that the very notion of similarity is extremely subjective ("I think this looks like...that"). "Similar flags" sections in lots of other "Flag of..." articles have earlier swelled out with any number of flags that have some vague similarity in one sense or another according to someone. This is impossible to source, and is therefore OR. There has been a RfC discussion in Talk:Flag about this, and the consensus there was that the "Similar flags" section in that article should "be kept if it is possible to restrict them to rigorously sourced groupings that have some sort of strong logical explanation as to the similarities, rather than being based on some abstract qualities." Following the same logic here, the "Similar flags" section could be converted to a "Related flags" section. That would have to contain a text with sources about how the flags are connected (in this case the pan-Slavic colours) with examples of flags that are similar because they are related. One problem is, the Slovenian flag is probably not related (according to the "Flag of Slovenia" article), so it may be difficult to source any connection to this flag. 46.107.119.195 is currently blocked, so I will await reverting until they have had the possibility of answering. Until then, I will just put in some templates. --T*U (talk) 15:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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Medieval flag of medieval separate Slovakia country?

Hello,

I think this edit is very strange:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_Slovakia&diff=968514168&oldid=961951769

"Flag of the Slovak territory of Upper Hungary from the 14th century. This flag was used by the Hungarian king Wenceslaus III of Bohemia, whose factical power was limited at this territory. The Trimount on the flag represents the upper mountain lands of the kingdom and the double cross has already been used earlier as the symbol of this territory (Great Moravia, Principality of Nitra)"

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nitrianska_vlajka.png

"The flag of territory of aproximate present-day Slovakia from the 14th century. There is a golden doublecross at the golden triple-hill in the red field. The flag was created in the 1301, during the rule of the Louis V., whose protage was the ruler of upper part of the kingdom, Matúš Čák Trenčianský and this flag was de facto symbol of Matúš's territory."

The marked source is the Chronicon Pictum (Viedenská obrázková kronika in Slovak)

This is the picture when Máté Csák use this flag, he was a Hungarian magnate, it is not surprising that he used the Hungarian flag himself. Even is the same picture we can see exactly the same symbol (double cross+trimount) on the body of the Hungarian king.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rozgony_Battle.jpg

Matthew III Csák

The text ignored that the Kingdom of Hungary used the same double cross symbol since King Béla III (1172-1196)

Coat of arms of Hungary

Flag of Hungary

It is not true to say this flag represent any separate territory from Upper Hungary, because this flag was the standard Hungarians flag which was used for the full country not only for the upper regions. There is exactly the same golden doublecross at the golden triple-hill in the red field in many earlier events in the same chronicle, it is not true that it was created in 1301.

Front page of the chronicle, exactly the same double cross+trimount below as Hungarian state symbol

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Képes_krónika_első_lapja.jpg

Exactly the same double cross+trimount in the flag and in the body of King Stephen of Hungary (997-1038)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Istvan-ChroniconPictum.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stephen_I_intercepts_Gyula_(Chronicon_Pictum_040).jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stephen_I_defeats_Kean_(Chronicon_Pictum_041).jpg

Same flag double cross+trimount, king Solomon of Hungary (1063-1074)

File:Chronicon Pictum P069 IV Henrik és Salamon.JPG

Battle of Mogyorod, here the armies of Géza and Saint Ladislaus (1077-1095) fight against the armies of king Solomon, in this case the army of Ladislaus use the double cross+trimount which was used by Solomon in the previous picture

File:Chronicon Pictum P85 Mógyoródi csata.JPG

https://mek.oszk.hu/01900/01955/html/cd2a/kepek/history/to092kk91.jpg

Same double cross+trimount on the body of King Saint Ladislaus

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Laszlo-ChroniconPictum.jpg

King Andrew II of Hungary (1205-1235), Same flag double cross+trimount

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Andrew_II_of_Hungary.jpg

King Andrew II of Hungary, 5th crusade same flag double cross+trimount

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_fifth_crusade.jpg

Ladislaus IV of Hungary (1272-1290)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chronicon_Pictum_P129_IV._László_és_gyilkosai.JPG

The seal of King Béla IV from his Golden Bull of 1242, for full country:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IV._Béla_aranypecsétje.jpg

File:IV. Béla király (1235-1270) első kettős felségpecsétjének hátlapja (1235-1241).jpg

Coin of King Béla IV, the same double cross+trimount as Hungarian state symbol for the full country not only upper Hungary

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/hu/thumb/c/c5/IV._Béla_denár_ÉHSz_3.PNG/640px-IV._Béla_denár_ÉHSz_3.PNG

Seal of Stephen V (1270–1272) exactly the same double cross+trimount as Hungarian state symbol for the full country not only upper Hungary

https://historia-cronologia.lapunk.hu/tarhely/historia-cronologia/kepek/v__istvan_fuggopecsetjenek_hatlapja.jpg

https://mek.oszk.hu/00800/00893/html/img/nagy/1e5d.jpg

Reverse of the second double seal (1366-1382) of King Louis I the Great (1342-1382)

File:I. Nagy Lajos király (1342-1382) második kettős felségpecsétjének hátlapja (1366-1382).jpg

Reverse of the first double seal (1387-1405) of King Sigismund of Luxembourg (1387-1437)

File:Luxemburgi Zsigmond király (1387-1437) első kettős felségpecsétjének hátlapja (1384-1405).jpg OrionNimrod (talk) 15:30, 19 August 2022 (UTC)