Talk:Florida State Road 538

Notes

At the time this article was created, there were no sources that clearly provided the following:

• Number of route. It definitely won't be a US highway and because it's not funded by FDOT, it likely won't be a state road. It probably will be given a "County Road XXX" designation. It's also unclear if the name "Poinciana Parkway" will replace "Kinney Harmon Rd" & "Rhododendron Rd" where this road overlaps those and whether it is being built as a limited-access highway in those sections.
• exact length of road
• exact length of bridge over RCMB
• intersections besides termini, Marigold Ave, & KOA St.
• if Marigold & KOA intersections are being built at-grade or grade-separated

The article needs to be updated with the above information when it becomes available. AHeneen (talk) 05:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Of those, the only question remaining is the exact length of the bridge. The bridge number is 920206 see page 21 (warning: large PDF file). AHeneen (talk) 17:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on making it to today's listing on the "Did You Know..." section of Wikipedia Main Page. The process of making it the listing takes a bit of effort and involves the quick cooperation of many editors. All involved deserve recognition, appreciation, thanks and applause.

Best Regards,

  Bfpage |leave a message  15:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. AHeneen (talk) 04:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Florida State Road 538/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 04:03, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

I am going to pick up this review for my fellow WikiCup competitor. Expect comments over the next couple of days.  MPJ-DK  04:03, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

• Link checker tool comes back clean Y
• Copyvio tool checks out clean too, nothing it hits on is an actual issue Y
• Images: Looks to have appropriate licenses and are good to use on Wikipedia Y

More to come.  MPJ-DK  00:06, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for taking up this review. This discussion is helpful in understanding the use of Google Maps for the intersections table and road length.

Just so you know, I am emailing the OCX a couple of questions. Since Monday is a holiday, I won't hear back from them until Tuesday. The first question is whether the name Poinciana Parkway is concurrent with the entire length of SR538. The second question is whether US 17/92 is actually the NW terminus of the highway or not. It was certainly the terminus listed in many sources and was the end of the construction zone, but the SR538/Poinciana Parkway designation may end about a mile east of that intersection (the old Kinney Harmon Road may still exist). The third question is whether there are actually signs using the name SR538. That designation is used on the OCX website, but if there are no signs using SR538, then the article needs to be at the title Poinciana Parkway (currently a redirect). If the article needs to be moved, it may be best to wait until after the move to change the status to GA since it may cause trouble with linking on the WikiCup points page. Other than that, the article is ready for review. AHeneen (talk) 06:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Alright so I've been a bit busy but I'm going to get your review done.

Lead

• Should not use the "&" in prose.
• "the section across the mitigation bank tolled after the decision to build the bridge" - Is that the correct use of the word "Tolled"? It took me two reads to realize what it meant.
• "About the same time Osceola County" should be "About the same time, Osceola County"

Route description

• What is a "grade-separated toll highway"?
• Where did the name "Parker" come from? I see it mentioned but not where that name came from?
• I am a little thrown off by the tense of the following sentence "Because Poinciana was planned as a bedroom community, improved road access is seen as essential to the community's future; the average commute is 45 minutes, which is among the highest commute times for small cities in the US.[9]" - it's in present tense but I read it as covering the time before the road was built? or is there still a 45 minute commute after the road was built?
• The paragraph staring with "In 2012, an agreement was reached between Orange County," is all in future tense, like it has not happened yet - but the road is completed right? So please adjust

Construction

• Again this all reads like it was written while the road was being built, now that it's done the article should reflect that with it being in past tense.

OCX and financing

• The paragraph starting with "With a SunPass or E-Pass transponder" seems out of place or am I just not reading it right? If it's about financing is there any information on the estimated income/use etc.? often these projects have a projected use/income to help support bond sales.

• That is it for now I will put the article on hold to allow for fixes and updates to be made.  MPJ-DK  01:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I have addressed all but part of the last issue (estimated income) in these three edits. No source says explicitly the reason early names for the road included Parker, but Parker-Poinciana Properties was the developer that owned the land on which Poinciana was built. I adjusted the preceding sentence to mention Parker-Poinciana Properties, which should be close enough to the names "Parker Highway Project" and "Parker-Poinciana Highway" that readers can infer the names are related to the developer's name. I changed "grade-separated" (see Grade separation) to "controlled-access" (Controlled-access highway). Both are slightly more technical terms for the type of highway, but controlled-access is the more precise term and a controlled-access highway is always grade-separated.

I did not receive a reply today from OCX in regards to my email, so please hold off on promoting the article (see issues mentioned above). I explained that because of Wikipedia's verifiability policy, I need to be able to cite a document to support the answers to my questions and asked that they include any document they have that can support the answers. Nearly all documents should be electronic PDF files and the questions are not obscure, so they should have a readily-accessible document that answers my questions. AHeneen (talk) 05:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I added information about the traffic projection used to support the bond sale and the actual average daily traffic count for the first week the entire highway was open (which is the most recent data available). AHeneen (talk) 05:49, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

• • AHeneen - No worries I have no problems keeping this on hold for a while, even if we go past the standard 7 days. Looking over the edits I believe you have addressed my concerns as well. Great work so far.  MPJ-DK  00:39, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

MPJ-DK I re-sent the email to them without a couple of links in case that caused the first email to be marked as spam. Hopefully I will get a reply this time. AHeneen (talk) 14:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

@MPJ-DK: I forgot about this review. I never received a reply to my emails. I have contacted a different department with the county and hopefully I will receive a reply this time. AHeneen (talk) 14:10, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

@MPJ-DK: I have fixed the article after receiving a reply. It is ready for the GA review to be finished. AHeneen (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@AHeneen: Excellent, I will take a look at it in the next day or so, mainly checking on the changes made.  MPJ-DK  23:08, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@AHeneen: I've been over the article and I'm satisfied that it's a Good Article level article. Passed, congrats.  MPJ-DK  11:15, 19 February 2017 (UTC)