Talk:Forests in Turkey/GA1

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Chidgk1 (talk · contribs) 07:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 10:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Happy to review this. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 10:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Content and prose

Lede

• about 11,000: I can't really see this in the body, but from what I can see it seems at odds
• After the glaciers retreated... cut down many trees. this sentence is quite long, and the last clause would benefit from being better joined or being split.
• In the mid-2020s the main source of income is wood, and forests are also important for recreation. a few changes here:

• the main income... Specify for Turkey
• wood -> lumber.
• In the mid -> As of the mid-

Definitions and cover

• The legal definition of a forest In Turkey? Or is this an international standard?
• However, the national greenhouse gas inventory is different -> However, under the national greenhouse gas inventory, standards are different ?
• Why do you define crown closure in the definitions part, and then only ever mention crown cover afterwards?
• (such as its hazelnuts) it's not clear what its is referring to here without consulting the Wikilink.
• Trees grown for crops (such as its hazelnuts) cannot be classified as forests. -> Plantations of trees grown
• deforestation caused by other uses of forest land What does this mean?

History

• Ten thousand years ago, Anatolia was mostly forested,[5] but forest cover why but? If it's that we don't know what happened inbetween, make that clear.
• Prehistory can be studied from tree rings, palynology (ancient particles such as pollen) and charcoal. excessive detail
• (both deciduous, such as Turkey oak, and evergreen oak) Remove the last word "oak" as it is confusing.
• for example in Çatalhöyük gloss this or exclude it.
• Human impact on forests on the land which is now Turkey is thought to be minimal until the Bronze Age at around 3500 BC, which included wood transport from remote areas. very wordy
• Much old growth forest was cut down in the last two thousand years Bring the dates forward in the sentence as you're constructing a time-line, and it's confusing initially if this refers to the previous time listed.
• Sometimes armies in war burnt forests to expose their enemies, ships were built, and forests cleared for agriculture in Turkey. At this time, armies sometimes... Quite a few changes needed in this sentence.

Quite a few changes needed in the rest of the history section along these lines. I'm doing a copyedit, but too many changes here need to be made. I'll skip to the next section.

Old-growth forest

• (sometimes called ancient woodland) probably don't need to include this since it's only in the UK
• and over 500 containing over 500 ?
• Again, don't need to include that they're different from something that's only in the UK.
• by Simay Kırca, Alper H. Çolak and Ian D. Rotherham don't need to include this information, unless you are referring back to them later.

Climate and forests

• increase the amount of forests -> plant more forests ?
• 4% of forests are... by encouraging bark beetles these sentences are far too choppy.
• predicts a 90% reduction give a time on this
• Decreases in precipitation especially include snow. This is very jarring

Okay, I'm going to leave this review here. It needs a thorough copyediting, I've been correcting basic issues such as sentences starting with lower case, and there are serious issues with flow and readability. Ping me when you get through the whole article, and I'll pick this back up.

Ah, I've gone to publish my copyedit to link it here and there's a major edit conflict. I can see you're making a lot of changes; it is clear that you know about a lot of these issues, and I think large parts of my review are now redundant. Please don't nominate an article for GAN if you haven't finished writing it, I will take it out of GAN so you have a chance to finish editing and pick it back up when you feel it is at a GA standard.

Suggestions

• Use the convert template, particularly for hectares
• Use the nbsp template between units if you're not.
• private afforestation permits use a different word for permits as it is ambiguous whether this means allows and is confusing

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 10:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.