Talk:Forksville Covered Bridge/GA1

GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Pretty good overall, but I have a few questions and comments.

   • Some of the first Burr arch truss covered bridges were also built in the state. If possible, remove "Some of the".
     • That is what Zacher wrote in the NRHP form, so I changed it to: According to Zacher, the first Burr arch truss covered bridges were also built in the state. I read here that Burr built his first bridge in New York state, so I wanted to qualify the statement in some way. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
   • Covered bridges were a transition between stone and cast-iron and steel bridges. Was there a transition between stone & cast-iron bridges and steel bridges, or between stone bridges and cast-iron & steel bridges?
     • Good catch - changed to Covered bridges were a transition between stone and metal bridges, the latter made of cast-iron or steel.
   • The roof and enclosed sides of covered bridges protected the structural elements, allowing some of these bridges to survive well over a century. Were the bridges able to survive intact for a century, or survive for well over a century?
     • Changed to survive intact. Dincher (talk) 18:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
       • Thanks Dincher, but actually, the Forksville bridge has so much steel in it now that the NRHP form describes it as "altered" in the "Integrity" section (as opposed to unaltered, i.e. still in its original condition), so I am hesitant to use intact. Changed to ... allowing some of these bridges to survive for well over a century. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
   • The restoration work was done by T. Corbin Lewis of Hillsgrove Township, a retired electrical contractor, whose low bid of USD$48,000 was accepted over a Baltimore, Maryland firm's $185,000 bid. Is there a better word choice than "done"?
     • Changed to completed Dincher (talk) 18:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
       • Thanks Dincher, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   The following table is a comparison of published measurements of length, width, and load of the Cogan House Covered Bridge, as well as the name or names cited. Isn't the article about the Forksville Covered Bridge? ;)

   Ah the perils of copy and paste ;-) Someone has already changed it - thanks Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   The "Name" section contains little information about the name of the bridge. Maybe rename to "Overview"? Also, I'd like to see the year it was built mentioned in the actual "History" section.

   Changed to Overview. Dincher (talk) 18:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

   Fine with me, thanks both of you. As for the date in the history, the second sentence of the "Construction and description" section says (of the 3 surviving Sullivan County bridges): All three are Burr arch truss covered bridges and all were built in 1850.[3][6] Is this OK as is? Adding 1850 to the next sentence to make it The Forksville Covered Bridge was built [in 1850] by Sadler Rogers (or Rodgers), a native of Forksville who was only 18 at the time. seems redundant. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Great images!

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

I am always amazed at how much information you find on bridges and other Pennsylvania-related topics. Overall a well-written, well-referenced article, but there are a few minor issues to be addressed. For now, I've put the article on-hold. Cheers, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your thorough review and kind words. Thanks to Dincher for his changes too. I believe I have addressed all of the issues raised, except for adding a second mention of the date built to the history section. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

PS If there is a better way to say all three bridges were built in 1850 and still make it clear this one was too, I would love suggestions. I have probably revised that paragraph more than any other in the article. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, after taking another look, I think it's fine as it is. I can't see anything that keeps it from GA status at this point, so it passes. Congrats! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 23:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)