Talk:Foundation (engineering)
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First sentence
edit"The foundation of a building is the soil or rock on which it sits. The footing is that portion of its structure that serves to transfer the weight of the building into the ground itself."
The first sentence disagrees with the second, (I don't think soil is a part of the structure) and the paragraph immediately following it.
A foundation supports a structure and transmits the loads into the soil and rock below. It is generally made from concrete and/or steel. The fundation isn't neccessariliy just the soil and rock, and a footing is a type of foundation.
Can someone please suggest a better opening sentence. If not, I will put one in myself in a couple of days.--Commander Keane 14:32, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
You Spelt 'Foundation' wrong mate.
The foundation of a building must sit on structural material. This does NOT include soil. Any material which contains organics is not structural material. Rock, till, even dry clay but no soil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.39.156 (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
The original wording matches Australian engineering documents (eg Australian Standards and the Building Code of Australia). In these documents, a foundation is the prepared/engineered ground or rock that a footing is built upon. A footing (generally a reinforced concrete pad or slab) is the structure that transfers load from the functional part of the building to the foundations. A footing is not a type of foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.91.153 (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
History
editIt would be interesting to read something about the history of foundations, e.g. "How did the Romans build their foundations?"
Foundation Design at Home Construction
editThe article Home construction has a link to Foundation design that I recently created that probably should be merged with this article in some way, as I didn't realize this article existed when I created it. The Home Construction article listed a dead link under "Foundation Design" and I went for it without looking to see if there was an article under the term "Foundation" until it dawned on me to check after I wrote it. The articles have some common points, but the article I wrote deals specifically with residential foundations as typically found in the USA and has more detail in that respect with the different types of residential foundations prevalent and an overview on each. Now that I found this article, I think it should be merged with it in some way, maybe as a section/sub-article titled "Residential Foundations" --- any thoughts?Marvtixx 02:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- It probably should be merged, after it's cleaned up. There are a lot of errors in the Foundation design article, mostly in assuming that the way it's sometimes done in some places is universal. I'll work on it when I get a chance. Argyriou 05:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- The foundation design article is a complete word-for-word copyvio from the url given at the bottom, and may well be deleted before you have the chance to merge them. Fram 14:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, Frammie, apparently you aren't too quick as you probably would have guessed that by my handle and the URL that I own the web page it links to, so apparently I have the authority to submit it. The Foundation article needs better content to address residential construction and needs more detail on foundations period. As far as the assumptions by Argyriou that foundation design isn't universal, virtually all foundation designs can be traced back to the ones I listed as direct offshoots. Besides that, the article didn't address every single method to create a residential foundation, only the most popular, and since any other variation is only an offshoot of these designs anyway; to argue otherwise is argument for the sake of arguing. What you need to do is come up with a more appropriate argument like why specifically you feel your edits are needed and what specific points are wrong instead of finding fault with an article simply because you didn't write it. Marvtixx 01:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am Fram, not Frammie, and please don't make unfounded personal comments. And since I didn't delete the article, I was obviously not the only one to feel that it was a copyright violation. You can choose any handle you like, that does not prove that you are the copyright holder. Please read our copyright policies. Fram 05:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Change Title
editI think the title should be changed to Foundation (Engineering). Architecture doesnt really have anything to do with foundations. A) It's engineer's responsibility to design them so they stand up and B) 99% of the time you will never see one when the building is complete.
- I'm inclined to agree, but how does one go about such a thing? --Zuejay 02:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Change the title foundation (architecture) to foundation (engineering)
editA foundation of building is designed by a civil/foundation/geotechnical engineer but not by an architect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kincth (talk • contribs) 13:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
- I'm inclined to agree. If no one objects in the next 48 hours, I think the move should be made. ZueJay (talk) 13:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Except that the foundations of 2-story woodframe houses are designed by architects in areas where the UBC controls. However, since the article is much more about engineering of foundations than the architecture of foundations, the move is appropriate. Αργυριου (talk) 16:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Done. -- Basar (talk · contribs) 05:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- Except that the foundations of 2-story woodframe houses are designed by architects in areas where the UBC controls. However, since the article is much more about engineering of foundations than the architecture of foundations, the move is appropriate. Αργυριου (talk) 16:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Monopile foundation
editThere are quite a number of Wikipedia articles that refer to "monopile foundation" but I can't seem to find any WP article (e.g., monopile, or monopile foundation, as of Sep 2009, both come up as red links) that describes a monopile foundation. Might it be possible for someone who is a geotechnical engineer/structural engineer/foundation expert to add a few words or a section to describe what one is and how they work? I see there are a lot of Google hits but an expert could probably best summarize the important ideas for a paragraph in this WP article on foundations. N2e (talk) 15:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- I have added a redir page for monopile foundation that will redirect to the page on deep foundations, where pile foundations are discussed. N2e (talk) 03:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have made a first-pass cut at a stub on monopile foundations by adding a section to this article. It needs a lot more work. N2e (talk) 19:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Base isolation
edit- base isolation isn't a foundation. It is instead a flexible connection between dynamically independent parts of the structure, which may include the superstructure and the foundation. Therefore, this section doesn't belong in this article -- Mecanismo | Talk 21:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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