Talk:Francis M. Wilhoit

Latest comment: 9 months ago by TucanHolmes in topic Diambiguation Page

False quotation on conservatism

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There's a quote which floats around the internet made by a "Frank Wilhoit":[1]

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

I wanted to leave a note here to point out that this is not the Francis M. Wilhoit of this article. The comment was made on March 22, 2018, which was 8 years after Francis M. Wilhoit died. It's not clear to me whether this merits inclusion in the article proper, so I'll just leave this talk comment and hope someone with a better understanding of Wikipedia norms sees it eventually. Meteorswarm (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I see so many of the same mistake for this quote: e.g. [2] that I think the mistake should be on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jan-wiki12 (talkcontribs) 11:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
cite 11 neither proves or disproves anything. Its random page that doesn't mention the question, which basically 100% of the internet also does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.222.82 (talk) 06:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I removed the quote (diff) after my search for an independent WP:RS commenting on the mis-attribution came up empty. I don't think the purpose of a BLP is to catalog things people didn't say, and all the independent sources cited were self-published. Evan an indiscriminate collection of actual quotes would be extremely WP:UNDUE. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Here's a Slate article interviewing the writer of that quote (dubbed "Wilhoit's Law"). It is from a Frank Wilhoit, but not this Frank Wilhoit. kane2742 (talk) 17:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Diambiguation Page

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I've added both Wilhoits to the Wilhoit disambiguation page, which might help a little. But maybe the composer Wilhoit should get his own page to help stem the confusion? When I searched for "Frank Wilhoit", I was sent directly to the economist Wilhoit's page. Even a stub would be useful (I have never created a page before, and am reluctant to do it myself). John Gamble (talk) 18:37, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Maybe the law (adage) should get its own article? There's gotta be enough reliable source material to support that, compare Parkinson's law, Hofstadter's law, among many more. TucanHolmes (talk) 10:31, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Wilhoit, Frank. "comment". Crooked Timber. Retrieved 26 May 2020.
  2. ^ nomoremister. "Wrongthink". blogspot. Retrieved 23 Jan 2021.