Talk:Francisco Solano López

Moving the article

This page's talk page previously went to here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Francisco_Solano_L%C3%B3pez_%28comic_book_artist%29, so I moved the article from "Francisco Solano López" to "Francisco Solano López (dictator)" so a new talk page could be made. If you quibble with calling him a dictator, feel free to change. Zafiroblue05 21:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Date of birth

He was born in the year 1827. El Centinela (24 july 1867) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorge Contrera (talk • contribs) 21:19, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

He was not born in 1827, but in 1826. The former is a false date propagated by López and his sympathizers. He was born very soon after his parents had married, meaning that he had been conceived out of wedlock. He was ashamed of this and moved his official date of birth a year forward. I will edit the article to indicate the correct year, with a reference. --Shelleyesque — Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Date of Death

Did he die April 1 or March 1? --Golbez 06:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

He died the 1st of March. Veritiel (talk) 12:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Surname is López

In this article and others about Paraguay authors mistakenly refer to López as "Solano López." López is his first surname--his father's surname. Solano is his second name. He should be referred to as "López." Guaraniab (talk) 20:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• I agree, "Solano" is his second name. It comes from saint "Francisco Solano Taumaturgo" (July 14th) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.179.222.244 (talk) 17:13, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Atrocities and Oppression

Nothing about those here? I guess the revisionists are running wild on Wikipedia too. :P

There weren't oppressions until Paraguay began losing the war. Most, if not all, of his atrocities was executing POWs and anyone who was Argentinian or Brazilian due to his increased Paranoia. Veritiel (talk) 12:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

You cannot establish something "beyond doubt" without strong evidences and a professional opinion. Regarding him as a military leader, he was nto the best, but most of his orders were either not obeyed of miscarried by some of his generals. This led to some big defeats for the Paraguayan Army, so again, hard to say it was entirely his lack of strategic skill as a generally unprepared and unexperienced army officers. Veritiel (talk) 17:45, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I read that he had his mother publicly flogged and that he had himself declared a Catholic saint. Is this true? Czolgolz (talk) 23:40, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

He executed his brothers-in-law (the husbands of his two sisters) and his two brothers. His two sisters were tortured and kept in small cages, like they were animals. He tortured his mother and ordered her to be executed. Just when she was about to be executed the Brazilian cavalry reached the Paraguayan camp and killed López. --Lecen (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

NPOV and accuracy

This article cites no references and it even contradicts with other Wikipedia articles. Such is the case when telling about how the war began. This article says "In 1864, in his self-styled capacity of protector of the equilibrium of the region, he demanded that Brazil should abandon her armed interference in a revolutionary struggle then in progress in Uruguay. " Yet in the War of the Triple Alliance article it states that Uruguay asked for Paraguay's intervention. This should be edited as to have a consistency on the facts. Also, the final part talking about his burial by Lynch state "His wife which was a prostitute from europe, which was a main factor in the war, was forced to bury her son and husband in the rain in a tatters dress after his death. ". This is hardly encyclopedic language. It has already been stated before this that she was a Parisan Courtesan, why call her prostitute again? Also, there are no references about source and the description of her in a tattered dress while raining seems quite romantisized. I propose this part to be edited as to reflect a more encyclopedic POV. Veritiel (talk) 12:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I have deleted the sentence dealing with his burial for the aforementioned reasons and since it doesn't contribute to the article about him. Veritiel (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

"Considered ambitious, perhaps arrogant, and possibly insane, Solano López is widely regarded as being responsible for the War of the Triple Alliance, which led to his death." I have never read a sentence on Wikipedia with such poor standard. I really don't know who this Lopez was, but this sentence raises all flags of warning of dishonesty. /Lopez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.209.203.87 (talk) 18:31, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit

I have organized this article a bit. I didn't change much besides cleaning it up a bit more as giving it a structure. The only part that I did change was the details regarding his death. I changed the original version:

For the one in War of the Triple Alliance which is now in the article. Veritiel (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

As Vice President

The page was added to the Paraguayan Vice President's category. I had undone it since, as far as I know and have read, he was never an actual vice president during his father's rule. It was changed again saying that he was appointed to the office from 1854-1866, but during that time his title was of Minister of War, not Vice-President as it mentions in the article, backed-up by a source. I'm going to erase the category again, since it's not sourced. If you find a good verifiable source stating that he was Vice-President, please add the category again as well as edit the article as to include it in it. Thanks. Veritiel (talk) 11:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

There was a claim in the article, but I just rechecked the source it claims, but it never mentions anything about him being a vice-president, only how he became president. The article text I took out is: " his will stipulated that López assume the reins of government as vice-president.", which referred to Carlos Antonio Lopez's will and it's talking about his son Francisco Solano. Again, I took this out since the source didn't mention anything about this. If someone can back this claim with a verifiable source then feel free to add it again. Veritiel (talk) 11:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved billinghurst sDrewth 11:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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Francisco Solano López (politician) → Francisco Solano López — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC) With full respect to the comics artist of the same name, the nineteenth century Paraguayan president personally responsible to a large degree for the War of the Triple Alliance, arguably the most important war in South American history, is the primary topic. If you google search his name, or look at google books, it is clear that almost all results relate to the president. Note that Francisco Solano López currently relocates to the Francisco López disambiguation page, which is unsatisfactory given that just this article and Francisco Solano López (comics) share this name. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 23:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support --Lecen (talk) 00:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
• Notwithstanding my admiration for his namesake, I Support the move. Salut, --IANVS (talk | cont) 13:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment the rename request was not mentioned on the talk page of the other biography mentioned. As comment from that direction may be of import, I will relist this for another week. Relisted. billinghurst sDrewth 17:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support Clearly the primary topic. Skinsmoke (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Excessive images

Just passing through and noticed there are SIX images of this dude in a relatively short article. On top of that, they pretty much all look the same. Two images wouldn't cut it? Just sayin... JBarta (talk) 10:23, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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