Talk:Frank Baker (cricketer)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Charles Matthews in topic Background

Background

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Given the birthplace and the Conyers name, he is perhaps likely to be connected to the Tipperary family of Baker of Lismacue.[1] But I haven't been able to make this definite. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:11, 31 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Well, his father can be identified from [2] of 1915. That is Arthur Conyers Baker of 22 Cottesmore Gardens, London; one sees from the London Gazette that the father brother made a formal name change in 1926 from Arthur William Hay Baker to Arthur William Hay Conyers-Baker.[3] He was an army officer with the North Staffordshires and then a Metropolitan Police officer. From the same 1915 reference and the announcement of Frank Baker's engagement, to Gladys Henderson of Banffshire, he was serving at the time on HMS Legion (1914).

The father brother occurs in WikiTree[4] and The Peerage[5] with some small extra information. He is in the Marlborough College Register of 1952 which gives the date of birth as 1891, service in West Africa in WWI, and (p. 94) his father as Arthur Conyers Baker (1845-1928), a rancher in Argentina, and son of Colonel G. Baker of Bath.

The link for Met Chief Constable Arthur Conyers-Baker on Philip Margetson is for the father brother, who may be notable.

Whatever the Tipperary link, quite likely on the mother's side, this is a fair amount to be working with. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:00, 31 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

A newspaper search[6] firms up the theory that Frank married Gladys Henderson, in 1915 at Turriff. Her parents resided at Dunlugas. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Following up the Argentina angle: [7] has a marriage in 1905 of Baker, Mary Honor Caroline in "the house of the bride's father, A. Conyers Baker, Estancia San Juan". That may be the grandfather's house. In any case there are other Bakers there who can be attached to the family. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

According to Geneanet [8], one can explain the Banffshire angle. Arthur Conyers Baker (the grandfather) married Mary Abercromby Clayton, and this Find a Grave page seems to be her mother. So there is Abercrombie for Abercromby in the link given for the 1905 marriage. [9] is the Geneanet page for the father brother. Of course these references fall beneath the RS standards, but a consistent story emerges. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:49, 31 October 2019 (UTC)Reply