Talk:Frank Fowler Loomis/GA1

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 02:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• " was a nineteenth century American businessman" - When used as an adjective, it's hyphenated. nineteenth-century.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and director in improving and developing out the fire and police departments for the city of Akron, Ohio" - Is "out" necessary in here? I'm not sure

•  Done took out "out" --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Combine the two paragraphs of the lead, since they're pretty short, and add a couple more sentences. Maybe mention the Loomis Award?

•  Working --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:43, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Early life

• "His father died when he was seven years old in 1861. He then lived with an uncle at Wadsworth, Ohio, for the next seven years.[3] He attended the local Akron public schools" - Three straight sentences with similar openings. Can you rephrase this a little bit to reduce the repetition?

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Mid life and career

• "The city however would not finance this needed improvement." - Commas before and after however, I think

•  Done yes. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The system first used a telegraph key, but it was realized that the person that operated the key during the emergency could not give the correct signal during the hysteria of a new fire. Loomis then developed an alarm box that worked by turning a crank automatically when the door was opened, giving the correct signal. He patented the alarm box (#US323435A) which sent this signal automatically" - Hysteria and the patent number aren't mentioned in the ref

•  Done Ref # 6 of Romance in Carreer of Man added that then covers this (source - we soon learned that in their excitement few people could give the right signal). Removed patent number.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Patrol wagon

• "His invention 1899 became the first motorized police patrol wagon" - There's a word missing between invention and 1899, I think

•  Done Added in "in" --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• "The Collins Buggy Company built the 5,500 pound carriage that cost $2,400" - Use the convert template to create a conversion to kilograms, as well. If you're not super familiar with the template, I can do this for you

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• "up to sixteen miles per hour" - Ditto as above, but with kilometers per hour

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Akron patrolman John Dunkin made the first arrest with the police horseless transport automobile" - What year, I wonder? It's a bit relevant, but if the source doesn't mention, it's not essential for GA.

•  Done = 1899. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• " It was recovered, repaired, and put into service for an additional seven years.[27] The electric patrol wagon had done 226 police runs by 1901 and had traveled 200 miles in the process of escorting criminals to jail. It was in the Akron police force until 1905 and then sold out for $25.[12]" - Did a different department use it for part of the seven years? Seven years after 1899 suggests 1907, but it was taken out of Akron service in 1905

•  Done Chilton 1908 source says it gave good service for seven more years after the 1900 riot incident. The 20 June 1999 news clip says it served six years AFTER 1901. The "1905" figure in the news clip is obviously a typo based on these references. It should be 1908. Copy edited the article accordingly based on this above.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Layout

• Combine the three super short sections at the end into a single section.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Did he have any kids?

•  Done Nope. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

References

• You misspell "Akron" in one of the ref titles

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Need a page number for the Doyle 1908 citation

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Do Chilton or the Police Journal have an OCLC?

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Good work on this one. An interesting read about an interesting figure. Should be pretty simple to get most of these cleaned up. Hog Farm _Bacon 01:13, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Hog Farm: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Doug Coldwell: - There's one more ref to Doyle 1908 without a page number. Fix that, and this one's good to pass. Hog Farm _Bacon 14:45, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Hog Farm: 99 Bottles of Beer on the wall. Same on my User Page on top.--Doug Coldwell (talk)