Talk:Frank Herbert Brown

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Billinghurst in topic Father

Father

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It seems perfectly plausible that Brown was the son of the Rev. Joseph Brown, Baptist minister at Upwell in 1849. This Joseph Brown may also be the follower, with Edmund Larken, of John Minter Morgan.[1] This all bears investigation. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Venn (BRWN825J) would make the follower of John Minter Morgan an Anglican. But it says "There is considerable confusion among authorities as to the identity of this graduate." Venn is not consistent with s:Dictionary of National Biography, 1912 supplement/Brown, Joseph. The ODNB version of that article does not identify that Joseph Brown with the Queens' graduate, so the issue perhaps is resolved in favour of Venn.

The title page [2] says Queens' (up to place of apostrophe), so that also agrees with Venn.

Charles Matthews (talk) 18:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Checking Crockfords, 1874 does not show a Joseph Brown in Norfolk, so definitely not Anglican. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:52, 20 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

1901 census

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Name: Joseph Brown
Age: 80
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Avery Jane Brown
Birth Place: Little Parndon, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Upwell
Occupation: Retired Baptist Minister
Condition as to marriage:
Registration District: Wisbech
Sub-registration District: Upwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 1561
Folio: 86
Page Number: 14
Household Schedule Number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Brown 80
Avery Jane Brown 76
Janet Brown 45
Ethel Marian Catlengh 10

death

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  • FreeBMD

Name: Joseph Brown
Registration Year: 1905 Jun. Q.
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Wisbech
Volume: 3b Page: 333

Quick search of 1905 doesn't find clear obituary for Joseph Brown in Upwell, Norfolk. More detailed search may find something, or may not. May need to get to local papers of Wisbech area.

ALPHABETICAL LIST OF BAPTIST MINISTERS IN ENGLAND

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Date: [Monday], Dec. 1, 1856
Publication: The Baptist Magazine
Volume: XLVIII and XIX , Issue: CCXXVIII

p. 83: Brown J., Upwell, Norfolk.

probate

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  • Calendar of the Grants ... > 1959 > Baalham-Byway > p. 1959

Name: Sir Frank Herbert Brown
Death Date: 14 Feb 1959
Death Place: London, England
Probate Date: 13 May 1959
Probate Registry: Chester, England

knight bachelor of Dilkusha 9 Westbourne Drive Forest Hill London S.E. 23 died 14 February Probate Chester 13 May to the Midland Bank Executor and Trustee Company Limited and Margaret Joyce Brown spinster. Effects £41331 9s. 10d.

Obituary

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  • The Times > Monday, Feb. 16, 1959 > Issue: 54386 > p. 10 > Sir Frank Brown

@Charles Matthews: email coming your way. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

1939 Register

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Name: Sir Frank H Brown
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1868
Residence Year: 1939
Address: No 9. Westbourne Rd.
Residence Place: Lewisham, London, England
Occupation: Newspaper & Editorial Ass
Line Number: 8
Schedule Number: 128
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AOTK
Borough: Lewisham
Registration district: 3/33. A.
Household Members Age
Frank H Brown 71
Margaret J Brown 30 Chartered masseuse & teacher
Jane Jones 70 Housekeeper

Census

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  • 1911 England

Name: Frank Herbert Brown
Age in 1911: 43
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Upwell, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Lewisham
Street Address: 9 Westbourne Road, Dilkusha, Forest Hill S E
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Journalist, contributor to home and Indian newspapers
Registration District Number: 29
Sub-registration District: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 2831
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Herbert Brown 43
Louisa Clara Brown 42
Douglas Frank Lambert Brown 4
Margaret Joyce Brown 1
Jane Jones 40
Maud Mary Wild 31
Florence Mabel Smith 16


  • 1871 England

Name: Frank Brown
Age: 3
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Upwell Norfolk England
Civil parish: Upwell
Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Upwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 1621
Folio: 42
Page number: 10
Household Members Age Relationship
Joseph Brown 50 Head, born Harlow Essex (born c. 1821)
Avery J Brown 45 Wife
Joseph J Brown 16 Son
Elizth Ann Brown 13 Daughter
Samuel L Brown 11 Son
John B Brown 10 Son
Edward Brown 6 Son
Nancy B Brown 5 Daughter
Frank Brown 3 Son
Ann Mott 15 Servant

birth

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Name: Frank Herbert Brown
Registration Year: 1868 Jun Q.
Registration District: Wisbech
Volume: 3b Page: 659

Brother

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  • Archives of Ontario; Toronto, Ontario, Canada; Collection: MS 935; Series: M023568; Reel: 683
Name: 	John Baptist Brown, Sydenham, Gylmer, Ontario
Gender: 	Male
Age: 	80 / 11 / 1
Birth Date: 	6 Feb 1861
Birth Place: 	England
Death Date: 	7 Jan 1942
Death Place: 	St Thomas, Elgin, Ontario, Canada  (bur. Elmdale Memorial Park, St Thomas)
Father: 	Rev. Joseph Brown
Mother: 	Avery Jane Lambert
In province 50 years; in Canada, 50 years
Certificate Number: 	014506